Maybe a little too chunky on the turn. If he's still drawing, you can make it 180 on the turn and still leave him making a mistake by calling, and making it a bit cheaper on you when you are behind and he pounces.
When he doesn't pounce the turn , and checks the innocuous river, I think a bet is fine, but because you bet so chunky on the turn, now it has to be an all in and it's tough for him to call with something like J10. If you made it smaller bet on the turn, now you can bet 300 on the river and get paid off by his bluff catchers more often.
As played on the turn, I think all in is fine, but you may be value owning yourself a little bit here with the bet sizing. Don't be too surprised to see him snap you off with his 9x
I posted in the other thread -- I still think only better calls and worse folds. Do you look like a spewy young player and is this against a straight-forward looking player or similar? Maybe he'll think you are overplaying first hand or trying to bully table and call with worse, but that's pretty wishful thinking.
Don't like the turn bet and flop might be a check against aggressive players but I think the river shove is great since most ppl jam 9x on the turn to protect or possibly lead out on the river afraid of a check behind. Would definitely expect a straight or boat to lead river. Don't expect Tx to fold with a million draws missing and getting 3:1 on a call.
Don't like the turn bet and flop might be a check against aggressive players but I think the river shove is great since most ppl jam 9x on the turn to protect or possibly lead out on the river afraid of a check behind. Would definitely expect a straight or boat to lead river. Don't expect Tx to fold with a million draws missing and getting 3:1 on a call.
i think flop and turn are fine, although thin. checking becomes more more attractive if the other players are good, not calling too wide pre, and have an idea of what a reasonable raising range would look like on this board from each position. the fact that this is hero's first hand also makes barreling off much more attractive imo. river jam is mandatory after flop and turn.
I hate playing for stacks on the first hand with one pair with no reads on villains.
What are we targeting with a river shove? JTs? JJ that didn't 3-bet pre-flop? I just don't see much that can call the river shove that we beat.
I see villain's river range as being fairly polarized on the river. He's either got missed draws (which he's not calling) or he's got a monster.
If hero has a potentially young and spewy image, V is just as likely to slow play and let hero hang himself. If we're saying hero's image might induce a bad call, we have to consider that hero's potentially spewy image might induce a slow play as well.
i think flop and turn are fine, although thin. checking becomes more more attractive if the other players are good, not calling too wide pre, and have an idea of what a reasonable raising range would look like on this board from each position. the fact that this is hero's first hand also makes barreling off much more attractive imo. river jam is mandatory after flop and turn.
Ya turn is really close but ok after looking at it. If we feel like we can get away with betting flop and turn against these players because they're never turning draws or worse hands into bluffs then we can also get away with making a smaller turn bet to minimize the losses when we do get shoved on by a better hand and still being able to value shove river.
Ya turn is really close but ok after looking at it. If we feel like we can get away with betting flop and turn against these players because they're never turning draws or worse hands into bluffs then we can also get away with making a smaller turn bet to minimize the losses when we do get shoved on by a better hand and still being able to value shove river.
i think the turn sizing is fine. while its true we would lose less when jammed on if we bet smaller, there is a decent chunk of his range that is fairly inelastic on the turn bc of how much equity it has, but will probably fold on the river unimproved, so we need to balance the extra amount we gain from betting larger vs these hands with how much more we lose when jammed on.