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2/5 AA flopped NFD how bad did I play this? 2/5 AA flopped NFD how bad did I play this?

08-23-2019 , 10:22 AM
2/5 NYC Private game
Game plays once a week. Almost always same players. Some very good. Some terrible. Everyone is almost always sitting in the same seats.
It’s my 7th session there (and I won pretty small-very big in 5 of them).
V is competent older guy (probably ~25/15). Calls a bit too much/tends to not believe me. But being on his left, and running good in this game, I have won most of the pots we have played which he is very aware of.
H: winning TAG image, on nittier side (The dealer forgot to deal me a second card twice in a row on the button and he commented that I am not going to use them anyway / because I fold a lot pre...)

OTTH 8 handed
2 limpers included V (covers me)
H ($350) CO AcAs raises to 25, 3 callers

Flop ($100) Jc8c3c
V donks $50
H calls ?!

Turn ($200) Ks
V donks $75
H goes AI (for $200 more) ?!

Was a bit tilted from losing a $300 pot to table fish few minutes earlier and feel I thoroughly misplayed this. Played too fast thru the hand and didn’t weigh different options etc.



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08-23-2019 , 10:31 AM
You're playing 2/5, lost a 60 BB pot and that put you on tilt? That's more alarming than anything that has to do with the hand that you posted.

The hand seems fine how you played it, pretty standard spot regardless of whether you won or the lost the pot.
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08-23-2019 , 10:37 AM
You have $350 in a 2/5 game with AA and the nut flush draw -- you must gii.

Raise the flop. As played, shove is fine.

BTW, $25 is OK pre, but if you know they will call more, bet more.
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08-23-2019 , 10:42 AM
You’re never getting away from this hand. The only thing I might do differently is flat the turn again to keep V’s worse hands in. Shoving may get him to fold a hand like Jx with a club. You don’t really need much protection here.
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08-23-2019 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
You have $350 in a 2/5 game with AA and the nut flush draw -- you must gii.

Raise the flop. As played, shove is fine.

BTW, $25 is OK pre, but if you know they will call more, bet more.
+1 to all of this

additionally, at a home game and getting called out as too nitty is eventually going to get you not invited back.

and woof at every player sitting in the same seat every week. this could be brutal if you're not an idiot and eventually someone descent ends up on your left for eternity.

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Originally Posted by momo_uk
You’re never getting away from this hand. The only thing I might do differently is flat the turn again to keep V’s worse hands in. Shoving may get him to fold a hand like Jx with a club. You don’t really need much protection here.
he donked on a turn K that smashes our range. he shouldn't really be bet/folding a K turn for only 200 more. if he is, he's never putting more money OTR anyway unless he binks 2P/trips
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08-23-2019 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jtm1208
You're playing 2/5, lost a 60 BB pot and that put you on tilt? That's more alarming than anything that has to do with the hand that you posted.
That’s fair. Tilt was an exaggeration. Annoyed would be more accurate. But point taken.

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Originally Posted by momo_uk
You’re never getting away from this hand. The only thing I might do differently is flat the turn again to keep V’s worse hands in. Shoving may get him to fold a hand like Jx with a club. You don’t really need much protection here.
Totally on board. I am never folding.
I posted more to get povs on how to get max value.
I think I prefer flatting the turn too.
Quick thought for shove was if he has a big c and river is blank, he is not putting more money.
But his most likely holding is indeed J and a c and there is probably more money to be made on the river when checking.





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08-24-2019 , 09:12 AM
Thanks all.

He folded. He indeed had J and FD.


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08-24-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jtm1208
You're playing 2/5, lost a 60 BB pot and that put you on tilt? That's more alarming than anything that has to do with the hand that you posted.
This ^

This hand plays itself with your stack size, raise flop and gii. If I were you I might reconsider playing in this game and revisit some poker fundamentals. This is a very very basic hand and some of your comments suggest you have some additional emotional issues, as well as overall leaks.
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08-24-2019 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinzFTW
This ^

This hand plays itself with your stack size, raise flop and gii. If I were you I might reconsider playing in this game and revisit some poker fundamentals. This is a very very basic hand and some of your comments suggest you have some additional emotional issues, as well as overall leaks.


I am literally printing money in this game so I think I am going to keep playing it. Appreciate the concern though.

Maybe you are right, too basic of a hand because we can GII at any point and it wouldn’t be bad. I was just trying to figure out if there would be a consensus on what was optimum.

Can you pls be more specific re: overall leaks you identified from my comments?


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08-24-2019 , 01:58 PM
I would just flat turn, shove can’t be that bad with our hand but I think it’s inferior.
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08-24-2019 , 04:43 PM
Why shove turn when the pot is already big enough to shove river and there are zero bad river cards other than maybe a J? I just call turn and jam any non-J river if he checks.
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08-24-2019 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by thedoud156
I am literally printing money in this game so I think I am going to keep playing it. Appreciate the concern though.

Maybe you are right, too basic of a hand because we can GII at any point and it wouldn’t be bad. I was just trying to figure out if there would be a consensus on what was optimum.

Can you pls be more specific re: overall leaks you identified from my comments?


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1) Extremely straightforward hand because you're playing short stack w/ AA and NFD but yet you perceive that you supposedly "thoroughly misplayed", "played too fast" and "didn't way different options". This sounds absolutely ridiculous tbh.

2) You tilt after losing a 60bb pot based on OP

3) You are generalizing your EV in that game based on only 7 sessions ex: printing money.

4) You're short stacking
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08-24-2019 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Why shove turn when the pot is already big enough to shove river and there are zero bad river cards other than maybe a J? I just call turn and jam any non-J river if he checks.
+1

And don't be a nit in a private game.
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