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2/5: AA facing turn raise 2/5: AA facing turn raise

08-17-2019 , 01:10 AM
$550 eff. UTG straddle 10, 3 calls, I make it 65 in BB with black AA, only MP limper calls.

Flop ($160): J82sdc
I bet $75, he calls

Turn ($310): Ts
I bet $135, he tankraises to $335 ???

Reads on MP: middle aged Asian guy. Saw him limp/rr TT last week and play weird after he got 2 calls. Checked a low flop then potted a face card OTT to get called and lose. But that was just $300. Hasn’t been involved in any hands with Hero who has a tight image.

I’m not sure if his PF calling range includes anything other than pairs but I guess it’s possible.

I bet turn because he really shouldn’t have any straights here plus I didn’t want to be confused if I check and he bet like $200. If I go bigger, I would be committed so wanted to avoid that situation.
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08-17-2019 , 02:03 AM
i'd just sigh muck.

ott i would consider checking, tho betting isn't bad
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08-17-2019 , 03:07 AM
I'd fold, probs has JT or something
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08-17-2019 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
i'd just sigh muck.

ott i would consider checking, tho betting isn't bad

Yeah I’m so torn about my turn bet. Idk what to do in these spots. My thinking was.. this guy will just call with 1p and shove 2p or better, do I can name my price and bet/fold. If he just calls I’m most likely good with AA. And can evaluate river.

But if I check, I’m kind of in the dark if I face a turn and river bet because I showed weakness. But maybe this guy never bluffs and just plays straight forward.
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08-17-2019 , 12:24 PM
Well it all starts with the flop call. With what can he call a bet on this pretty dry flop?
There’s not a ton of draws so his range is skewed to pairs and some slow played sets.

He doesn’t need to tank to raise top two or JJ but he might have to tank to raise a draw here. Only a nit would tankraise his TT worried H has JJ. (Though I confess I did this a few weeks ago). But 88 would need to think very hard here.

Overall I think it’s better to check this turn as it’s better for V’s range.

AP we’re behind 3 TT and 3 88 that might need to tank versus 4 KQs, 4 T9s and 1 Aqs that could make a move after floating. It’s a close call and a gross spot. I think it’s a live read and quite V dependent. If he didn’t tank I’d tell you to instafold.
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08-17-2019 , 01:10 PM
I would go bigger both pre and otf. I would go $75 pre, and this is a board that I believe we should be sizing up on. Anyone else going ~$110 on the flop?

I'm checking this turn. I see this card as more beneficial to villain's range and like going for pot control.

I think I'm getting it in here. With your reads on villain I assigned him a range of QJ+ (suited and non suited), JT (suited and non suited), J9s, T9s, T8s, 88, and 22, and we're a 61-39 favorite.
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08-17-2019 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
Yeah I’m so torn about my turn bet. Idk what to do in these spots. My thinking was.. this guy will just call with 1p and shove 2p or better, do I can name my price and bet/fold. If he just calls I’m most likely good with AA. And can evaluate river.

But if I check, I’m kind of in the dark if I face a turn and river bet because I showed weakness. But maybe this guy never bluffs and just plays straight forward.
Very big if right there. Plus on a lot of rivers, IP is going to snap check back his SDV. Also betting doesn't exactly keep you away from the dark. You bet < 1/2 here ott and now we are somewhat lost, or if you bet turn & get called, there are a lot of rivers you will also be lost on.

I do think betting is fine too.
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08-17-2019 , 06:21 PM
Ok so once again you’re only 55bigs deep w AA facing limps and you’re playing it like a 2/5 hand. Size up all streets and stack off turns on basically all boards. AP call river and get there.
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08-17-2019 , 07:50 PM
Size up pre to like 85. Your giving everyone a great price (I don't wanna say it was a sweetener but it wasn't too far off).

I would fold the turn and not think anything about it. (I was already thinking "BWT" when I read the title but the post confirmed it even more).
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08-17-2019 , 08:03 PM
Grunch: AP I fold but I would have stamped on the gas from preflop on and pot size would be sufficient to just jam turn.
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08-17-2019 , 08:11 PM
Pre is fine.

Flop bet could have been a bit bigger, but fine.

X/c turn, unless you are planning on stacking off.

But, as played to the turn, GII.
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08-17-2019 , 09:54 PM
Lots of different opinions on the flop sizing. Some want to bet 1/3-1/2 pot because it’s a dry flop and we want to keep his weaker hands in. Others want to size up?
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08-17-2019 , 11:15 PM
Just no stack. AA is nutted on 95% of boards. Just pile it in you’re super shallow.

Ive done this before, but just simplify it for a game with which you likely have the most hours. So, if this were 1/2, this is what this hand looks like:

110eff. Limp limp limp. I make it 13 in BB with black AA, only MP limper calls.

Flop (32): J82sdc
I bet 15, he calls

Turn (62): Ts
I bet 26 he tankraises to 67???

You bet too little on every street.
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08-17-2019 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Just no stack. AA is nutted on 95% of boards. Just pile it in you’re super shallow.

Ive done this before, but just simplify it for a game with which you likely have the most hours. So, if this were 1/2, this is what this hand looks like:

110eff. Limp limp limp. I make it 13 in BB with black AA, only MP limper calls.

Flop (32): J82sdc
I bet 15, he calls

Turn (62): Ts
I bet 26 he tankraises to 67???

You bet too little on every street.

Wow, looks really tiny when you translate it to 1/2. Thanks for the insight.
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