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09-14-2019 , 10:36 PM
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Hero has been playing for 1.5 hours and is up about $200. I 4bet 2 times already and took it down and 3bet 2 times as well. No one called yet.

Villain $1000 He unsuccessfully tried to 3bet me. I open strong hand utg to $20 and 3 callers. He goes $150 on btn and I go $325 and he folds.

Villain opens $20 in HJ. I go $85 in SB with AsAc. He calls

$175
3h5h8h

I lead $65. I may lead my full range here like this.
He goes $275

Hero?
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09-14-2019 , 10:46 PM
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Don't lead full range on this flop. We have a severe polarity disadvantage, V has many more flushes & sets than us. I much prefer checking full range over Cbetting full range.

As played, fold to the big raise. He has shown some form of competence in the previous hand you mentioned. He's quite likely to be polarized to value hands that are crushing us, and his bluffs pretty much always have a heart. A slightly ahead/way behind spot with a lot of money behind is one I'm looking to get away from.
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09-15-2019 , 03:58 AM
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Better off c/c here rather than downbet and get raised without the Ah.
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09-18-2019 , 07:10 PM
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I ended up calling his check raise - not sure i'm in love with this.

I open jammed blank turn and he folded. He said he had QQ with Qh

My plan was to call flop and jam any turn that wasn't a heart. I'm ok with this as it's hard to flop a flush and i'm only 200bb deep. I do think I could maybe size up my 4bet to $90-$100 pre as i'm OOP
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09-18-2019 , 07:14 PM
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Turn donk shove removes the only benefit of calling flop - to keep his bluffs in
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09-18-2019 , 08:15 PM
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Turn donk shove removes the only benefit of calling flop - to keep his bluffs in
Not true. The other benefit of calling the flop raise is to do exactly what OP did. Wait for a non heart turn and then jam on him when villain has a lot less equity with a pair and a heart.

There are a couple different way to play this hand well and OPs way is one of them. Id say the worst way would be to call the flop raise and then check to him and allow him to check back.
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09-18-2019 , 08:32 PM
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Yeah, this is a really bad spot to be c-betting your range as Thamel pointed out. Calling the raise is whatever, I could go either way. Turn donk jam makes no sense. You're letting him play perfectly against you. Check/decide is way better.
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09-18-2019 , 10:36 PM
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It's ok to lead range here, but on a monotone board, I would lead smaller, 1/4 pot. You don't need to bet as big to get hands to fold and you lose less when your opponent has the nuts. You balance this by doing the same with Ahxh, etc.

Edit: You should only do this on monotone boards. I think it would be a mistake to do it on 853hhc.
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09-19-2019 , 04:53 PM
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All his bluffs have equity. It's not like he's turning a random hand into a bluff - they usually all have a heart. Why would I let him see a free river?

And if I check and he jams i'm forced to fold.
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09-19-2019 , 05:12 PM
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All his bluffs have equity. It's not like he's turning a random hand into a bluff - they usually all have a heart. Why would I let him see a free river?

And if I check and he jams i'm forced to fold.
I agree with the first part but not the bolded part. Hes not going to have a flush very often in a 3 bet pot. He wont have a set of 2 pair very often on this board either. His most likely hand is a big pair with a heart when he raises the flop and that's still his most likely hand if you check and he goes all in. I'm not folding but I like your line better of jamming the turn so he cant check back.
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09-19-2019 , 05:39 PM
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His pre flop raise/call range shouldn’t have many offsuit hands. So the one heart really isn’t a big concern IMO. Most of his range on the turn is pocket pairs with a heart, flushes, and sets. You don’t want to donk into that. He’s got a pretty big nut advantage. But you do you.
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09-19-2019 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Hero has been playing for 1.5 hours and is up about $200. I 4bet 2 times already and took it down and 3bet 2 times as well. No one called yet.

Villain $1000 He unsuccessfully tried to 3bet me. I open strong hand utg to $20 and 3 callers. He goes $150 on btn and I go $325 and he folds.

Villain opens $20 in HJ. I go $85 in SB with AsAc. He calls

$175
3h5h8h

I lead $65. I may lead my full range here like this.
He goes $275

Hero?
From preflop action, V's range should consist mostly of big pairs and maybe KQs. Would bet larger on flop to target big pairs.
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09-20-2019 , 01:02 AM
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From preflop action, V's range should consist mostly of big pairs and maybe KQs. Would bet larger on flop to target big pairs.
He’s definitely wider than that IP and deep against an active player. We can’t be sure he’s folding any suited broadways, mid connectors or Axs
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