So the table has been mostly limping no real agreesors for first 3 hours I am there. few raises here and ther but I've been quite as my cards have been kinda dead. I've gotten to show down twice w/ villian first hand I c-bet on J43 board he called. J turn check check. 9 River. I show Q9 for the winner and he seems pissed and said i sucked out- guessing he had PP >4's. Next hand was 5 hands later and we got it all in on flop 467hh and I had AA and it held against random hand -not flush draw. Reg is competant and realizes that I am an agg player who c-bets 95% raises etc. I raised a few hands lately and table is starting to loosen to my raises but haven't showed down light and nobody has played back at me.

Hero (1000ish) -MP A8
Villian (835ish)- SB

Hero raises to $25. 3 callers.

Flop (100) Q54
V1 (810) checks
Hero(975) bets 65
V2 folds
V3 folds
V1 raises to 165.
Hero calls.

Turn (430) 9
V1(635) checks
Hero (810) bets 175
V1 calls

River (780) 7
V1 (470) checks
Hero (635) bets 230
V1 tank calls

Played fine for the most part, but I think you lost some value.

Bet more on the turn and more on the river. If Villain is not making a decision for the rest of chips on the river I think you made a mistake.

I bet 275 on the turn. If Villain commits you most likely will get the rest.

come on, your bet sizing is way too small. bet 260 on the turn and you have an easy shove on the river. u have the nuts. u want to play for stacks, set it up.
also nothing wrong to bet 470 into 780 on the river. he clearly had something, u costed urself 240 bucks there.

Jam the river, like 100% of the time

Bigger on the turn, and river is a shove w/ your image AINEC.

Thanks for responses. My thought process on making it cheap enough for him to call even though he "knows" I have the flush is out-leveling myself im guessing? If he is going to call 175-230 is he always calling 275-shove or at least calling often enough that it is +ev? My exact though process for this hand on turn river was this_

Bet low enough to guarentee a call which would commit him to a call on river as long as another club does not come. Willing to take the risk that board pairs and his probable set/2-pair gets there. Based on response I'd say this is flawed? your replies were/are greatly appreciated btw....

Turn and river bets are both way way too small.

If he views you as an aggressive player that "cbets 95%" how could he possibly "know" you have a flush. Seems like he shouldn't be able to put you on that narrow of a range if you are sometimes barreling.

agree with everyone else if you bet more on the turn you take it all, id be shocked if he doesnt have 444 or 555 here.

Betting more on the turn actually looks more bluffy.

With you're sizing I might fold as villain if you're competent since it looks specifically like you have a single pair hand beat and want to get value.

Even if you want to induce a light call on the turn it leaves a bigger bet on the river. I think I like $235-250 on the turn and jamming the river for $385-400. I just think he looks us up lighter on the river if he decides to peel the turn getting like 4:13 on the river on an excellent good bluff card (if he is thinking)

i'd bet a little more on the turn to set up a more reasonable river shove, but as played i'd still shove the river and hope a baby flush/weirdly played set can't find a fold.

curious to know what kind of check/raising range people give villain here when he makes it this small keeping in mind that he called OOP preflop with three players in.

i feel like we should discount sets and 54 since he only made it 100 more and we're sorta deep. of course people are weak in general and might think 165 is plenty big enough since that's a couple thanks of gas and gas is expensive these days!

as for betting more on the turn to look more bluffy, what bluffs does hero have here? he calls the c/r with Qx/KK/AA/clubs and that's pretty much it

Qx (excluding AQ and possibly KQ) is most likely hand we turn into a bluff. I think villain might put us on AK with one club and some 67ss combos in our range. I will occasionally have have hands like TcTx or JcJx that bluff catch the flop but realize they have little showdown value and should be turned into a bluff.

if this range is correct flop is a pretty easy 3bet (assuming he is going to fold most Qx to a 3bet)

if you're occasionally calling w/TT/JJ you need to be getting stacks in here

Sorry I am saying that villain is putting US ON THAT RANGE. bad typo, I am going to edit it to be more clear.

holy terrible bet-sizing batman

Right... I would be barreling off if villain checks to me on the turn and river comes any non-club. I'm probably gonna stuff it if certain high clubs come as well.

Given your image, turn bet needs to be much much bigger and make it look bluffy.

I can fall into the same trap of betting too little with my made hands, for fear of encouraging a fold. But once V pulls this checkraise on the flop, you don't have to worry about blowing him off his hand.

on the flop, I would feel pretty strong that his c/r range is a worse draw or something really strong, with the occasional air. So once you get there, just bomb it for at least 200. His good hands are always calling. V can easily have a worse flush. And if he is doing this with an air/one pair type of hand, this turn is going to shut him down really no matter what you bet. So blast it.

Sorry I don't know what I was thinking.

If I have some sorta TcTx or JcJx hand or Qx hand or AKxc/cx hand I bet what OP did, forcing villain to call a bigger river bet.

If I made my hand I elect to bet larger on the turn and shove for a smaller river bet.

If villain is really good I probably elect to start jamming 100% of both types of hands when he checks the turn.