2/5
Ten Handed
160bbs effective

V2 (BB) Mid 30s Male: Very loose aggressive preflop and on the flop. Relatively straightforward on later streets. Calls most 3-bets.
Plays hyper aggressive preflop at times; raising to $50 first to act and 3-betting from $30 to $150 several times (unusually large raise sizes).
In one hand 80bbs eff, he raised 36 from UTG to $40, called a 3-bet and shoved on a K67 first to act in a HU pot.
V1 (SB) Mid 30s Female: Weak, loose passive
Hero (MP) Playing straightforward

Preflop: UTG+1 limps, I limp with QQ, SB raises to $25, BB calls $25, I reraise to $110, SB and BB both insta-call

Flop (~$330): J75

SB checks, BB checks, I bet $220, SB folds, BB goes all-in for ~$700 total, I...?

Your Q of clubs blocks a lot of flush draws that he could have in his range. For instance, we can eliminate AQcc or KQcc, two hands that would likely shove on this board. Because of this, what hands does he shove here that we beat?

We can discount AKcc heavily since he didn't 3-bet from the BB.

Would he call your 3-bet with A5cc, T9cc or 65cc??? Possibly, but its only three combos. We are crushed by 9 combos of sets and are aprroximately flipping with A5cc or 109cc or 65cc. If he does have a passively played AKcc then we are a 40/60 dog.

I wouldn't expect a hand like AJ to check-raise all in here, so I think this hand can be all but completely eliminated from V's range.

Overall, I don't think we are doing very well against our opponents range. This pot is large, and you have shown such strength that I don't think V expects you to fold here. Because of this, I wouldn't expect him to be shoving his pair/combo draws, except, maybe A5cc. But it's a stretch he would even call a limp/reraise with that hand, and it's only 1 combo of hands we are barely ahead of.

It's risking 480 to win 1250. It looks like tempting odds, but I don't think we are getting the odds, given our opponents hand range.

Other posters can break down the math here, crunching down the equity to see what is correct.

In game I'm pretty sure I would fold, but not positive it is the correct play in the long run.

I agree with bodybuilder by and large. Also, think about what your hand looks like. Limp/RR oftentimes reads like AA/KK. Thus, barring something funny going on, V2 is betting as if they beat all single pair hands.

Reads like a fold to me.

Would he call your 3-bet with A5cc, ??? If yes, then would he call with combos like 98cc 109cc, 65cc, 54c, 43cc, 52cc, and K5cc? We are crushed by 9 combos of sets and are aprroximately flipping with all of the mentioned combo draws.. If he does have a passively played AKcc then we are a 40/60 dog, as well as a 40/60dog to 98cc.


I think live reads come heavily into play here. We have to be pretty darn sure our opponent WOULD call a 3bet limp/reraise with junk combo draws like 52cc, EVERY SINGLE TIME in order for us to have the right equity to make this all in call. I just don't find that to be likely.

You also said he plays straightforward post-flop. If that's the case, this narrows his range more toward the combos of sets then it would for the combo draws. Shoving a combo draw here for 700 is a very aggressive play for a 2-5 MAWG.


I would take some equity calculations with a grain of salt because they will include combos of AJ, random flush draws like K2cc and all kinds of junk that aren't practical in a live game.

In game I'm pretty sure I would fold, but not positive it is the correct play in the long run.

Based on your description of V2, this is an easy call for me.

You did say he makes unusually large raises and plays HYPER aggressive.

Over pair vs a vil like that for me is the nuts. If you are going to raise preflop, and bf flop with an overpair, why even play against him?

BTW, I am folding QQ vs V1 loose passive female player if she raised me ai on this flop.


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Rationally, you would only expect to see 55 or 77 here. But I find you often have to take into account the 'irrational factor'. Like BB goes very laggy with AJ pre - then say's to himself, 'what the ****...' and plows into the flop. I find that I only count on the irrationality factor if a) I've seen that behaviour from V before, and b) if there is a trigger present (like recent bad beat). Barring that - I think you have to assume rationality and fold here.

This should be a call if only because we 3b pre and got this flop with an SPR of 2. But more to the point, V is lag pre and OTF. We've seen him PFR/c 36s and shove flop with BP+FD. On this flop there are a ton of combo draws he could have, not to mention overvalued Jx.

Given that he called a PFR out of the BB before calling our 3bet, I think all the FDs are in his range save for AKs/AQs.

Plus if we 3b QQ pre and CB/f this flop with an SPR of 2, then we're just going to get run over by the lag. It's not like we got c/r by a nit after all...