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04-13-2017 , 07:54 AM
Villain lost his stack five mins ago when he 3 bet KK and bet-called off flop shove vs two pair against another player, both about 150bbs deep. MA tourney rec on the loose aggro side. Seven handed. UTG opens to 15, I call with 67hh from UTG+1 (I cover), villain calls from BB ($200). Flop 568 one heart. Checks around. Turn 3h. UTG bets 15, I call, BB calls. River 9h. BB leads for 65, UTG folds, I call. Standard? Thoughts on all streets appreciated.
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04-13-2017 , 08:07 AM
Fold pre is first Imo... Utg+1 vs utg open 67s belongs in the much.... I'm amazed you get to play this hand in position here, without getting squeezed at some point,

Flop:
I probably bet this, we have flopped pretty hard and I want to start building a pot...
Turn:
I'm OK with calling, decent spot for a raise Imo, but the call is good.
River:
I'm OK with the call, we could find a raise here again and expect to get called by straights.... Villans always seem reluctant to credit bdf even though the flop was checked through....
It's close between call and raise I guess, villan dependant.
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04-13-2017 , 02:21 PM
If 150 bbs deep and favorable table dynamic, i.e. passive play behind, I’m ok with a call. Otherwise it’s a fold.

Flop – must bet ip, $30-35.

Turn – given the weakness shown, raise with both hand equity and fold equity.

River – as played, call with small flush and previous action.
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04-13-2017 , 02:58 PM
fold pre! terrible call preflop. as played raise villain all in river, hes got what 25bb($120) left?
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04-15-2017 , 01:51 AM
I don't mind the call preflop, although it's a little bad UTG+1, it's not terrible. Just don't make a habit in more aggressive games.

On the flop, there is no way I'm checking here. UTG checks, and you flopped huge. You have middle pair, your open ended, and you have a back door flush draw.

On the turn, I'm raising this a large percentage of the time. Maybe to $50

On the river, BB leads for $65 which could be 7X, or it could be a higher flush. The problem with raising here against a good opponent is you fold every hand you beat, and only hands that beat you call here. I suppose only occasionally I would raise, if my opponent is weak enough to pay me off with 7X, or if I have a good read that he's weak.
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04-15-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Havok
I don't mind the call preflop, although it's a little bad UTG+1, it's not terrible. Just don't make a habit in more aggressive games.

On the flop, there is no way I'm checking here. UTG checks, and you flopped huge. You have middle pair, your open ended, and you have a back door flush draw.

On the turn, I'm raising this a large percentage of the time. Maybe to $50

On the river, BB leads for $65 which could be 7X, or it could be a higher flush. The problem with raising here against a good opponent is you fold every hand you beat, and only hands that beat you call here. I suppose only occasionally I would raise, if my opponent is weak enough to pay me off with 7X, or if I have a good read that he's weak.
This, except given villain's description I think just call river is pretty awful. Easy ship, he has like 120 left after his river bet.
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04-15-2017 , 03:37 AM
Preflop is fine if 3betting is rare in this game, otherwise you'd want to fold.

Flop is awful, not sure what you're doing. You have a ton of equity and need to protect your hand, bet.

Turn seems standard.

River is a weird spot, I think it's close but I lean just calling. The only thing that gives me pause is that BB did not lead turn in a spot where you'd think he would if he had a FD and an overcard or two, so it doesn't seem likely he has a flush. I think villain as described probably usually lays down a 7 if you jam. Probably a good spot to bluffshove if you didn't have a flush or straight actually.
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04-15-2017 , 09:50 AM
Why from villains description do you think he would fold 7x hands? Aggro rec tourney rec player who just got stacked and only has 120 left?

Either I'm misreading something or you guys are delusional
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04-15-2017 , 12:52 PM
Possibly. It's like the most trivial handreading ever to figure out that we rep better than a 7 if we raise, so it depends if the guy handreads at all or just clicks buttons.
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04-15-2017 , 03:20 PM
"Oh you probably have the flush... you rivered a flush... I don't beat anything...ahhhh ok whatever I call, oh a flush? Nice hand."
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04-15-2017 , 05:09 PM
Preflop: If you call & don't get any callers between you & the Button [3 players] you'll have position. If you get 2 callers before the SB, you can forget about playing aggressively.
You're about 20:1 to flop 2 pair or better & if it comes like X,6,7 & X pairs V, you're likely to get his $200 when no overcards to his pair hits, a return of ~13:1 on your money if nobody else calls.

As it turned out, you were getting much better odds if both the BB & V hit the flop along with you & you're best. How I don't know.

So I fold in this spot, primarily because I'll be OOP when 1 of 3 players remaining b4 the SB calls. It's also most likely I'll flop a flush or OESD at 5:1 [than a 20:1 flop] & then have to pay to see the Turn.

Flop: I bet. 75% of pot after the rake. Nobody with an overpair, IMO, is checking that coordinated board with an overpair.

Turn: Raise 3/4 pot after you put in your $15, if you think a player with J high flush draw would fold.

River: Call. BB probably has a bigger flush, but maybe not.
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04-15-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
"Oh you probably have the flush... you rivered a flush... I don't beat anything...ahhhh ok whatever I call, oh a flush? Nice hand."
Sure, could easily happen, but I don't think it's anything like 100%, while better flushes are obviously 100% to call. We also block him having a 7. Like I said, I think it's close.

Kind of odd that BB did not lead the turn regardless of which draw he had. Pot is up for grabs.
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04-15-2017 , 11:10 PM
Gotta bet this flop dude.

As played, crying call on river, looks like he has a higher flush here. If he only had the straight most players would bet smaller on the river IME
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04-16-2017 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
We also block him having a 7.
And we block him having a flush.
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