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2-5, 500 max bet: AA in BB after sb raise. 2-5, 500 max bet: AA in BB after sb raise.

03-30-2018 , 03:22 PM
V (1700) is older woman who won’t stop talking. She doesn’t play too well and overvalues medium/strong hands. She plays emotionally and will raise and call with lots of different things preflop. Post flop she makes big bets when she’s confident and smaller ones when she isn’t so confident. She loves chasing and usually doesn’t lay down draws often. She overvalues overpairs. She’s been running quite well against me recently in big pots.

She perceives hero (2000) as dangerous and doesn’t like sitting to the right of me. I’ve 3b her several times this session.

A few limpers. V raises to 30 in sb, H 3! to 80, folds around to V who calls quickly.

Flop (175) T98r

V checks, H thinks for about 20 seconds and bets 105, V raises to 225 immediately, H calls in about 10 seconds.

Turn (625) 9, bringing on flush draw.

V bets 200 pretty quickly. Hero?
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03-30-2018 , 03:25 PM
Easy flop check. No overcards to your ace, very bad board for your range, this hand helps strengthen checking range. Also 2 streets of value is fine. Would rather cbet kings. You’re also getting raised a lot on this board.

Ap not folding yet

3b pre way bigger, at least 100
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03-30-2018 , 03:31 PM
Holy crap minatorr is back. Sup bud.

Op, your 3b sizing, it makes me sad.
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03-30-2018 , 03:44 PM
Actually I think pre I raised it bigger. I forget how much exactly. I think 90. But should go more for sure considering she raised in sb. I was playing a little fast.
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03-30-2018 , 05:26 PM
3 to 4x pre

With her read (old lady, loves chasing and usually doesn’t lay down draws often), and the min check raise otf, I don't mind laying it down to her.

as played I'm calling the 1/3rd psb ott
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03-30-2018 , 05:26 PM
I’m wondering if there is any merit to raising. I’m never folding here.
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03-30-2018 , 05:38 PM
your 340 BB's deep An old lady just min-check raised an 89T flop. If this isn't QJ or a set, and she likes to chase draws, what's in her range? Would she min/ck/raise with KK?
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03-30-2018 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
your 340 BB's deep An old lady just min-check raised an 89T flop. If this isn't QJ or a set, and she likes to chase draws, what's in her range? Would she min/ck/raise with KK?
She’s not any old lady. Shes famous in the casino for complaining and going on mad tilt and talking non stop and making dumb plays and playing mostly level one. I don’t think she’s raises 6x in sb w qj, but she does have sets in her range. I think w sets though she would raise bigger to protect her hand.

Anyway I think calling is standard.
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03-30-2018 , 06:03 PM
pre: 100$

flop: check

turn: b/f 175$

river: (if it`s a blank) b/f 375$

AP: yeah call.
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03-31-2018 , 02:32 AM
Results:

I call turn. River is 7 putting out 4-straight. V bets 200, I call.

She has QQ.
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03-31-2018 , 01:22 PM
Everybody is saying "check behind" on flop. Why? Aren't you living dangerously by giving free card?
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03-31-2018 , 03:48 PM
I think against better players capable of c/r air/big draws I would check on the flop. Against this opponent, I don't think she c/r often without a good hand. But her definition of a good hand is very skewed. Plus, she thinks I'm bluffing a lot.

Looking back though, I think check is OK to keep the pot smallish since t98 isn't a great flop for aces. I would just call turn and rivers. But I don't think bet OTF can be that bad either since she's calling with all kinds of garbage draws.
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03-31-2018 , 03:59 PM
Fold to flop raise imo
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03-31-2018 , 04:18 PM
ive read the results, but i think there are better lines we can take in this hand. first off, raise more pre, I like 115-120.

against good players the flop can sometimes be a check back as there will be some frequency of raising 88-TT (and especially 99/TT), but against this villain we must bet with AA. her sizing says she has a strong pair, and I'd expect this player type to complete a lot of the time with 88/99 and open TT, say, 60% of the time (just an educated guess).

her flop x/r is small so a call is fine. you may also consider clicking it back as her range is a lot of TT-KK that won't fold if we make it 350.

her turn bet is pretty weak so i like a raise to 400 to target her overpairs. this sets up a river shove where she'll be getting a decent price and likely call down because "I haz overpair and I don't fold". alternatively if you feel a turn raise will look too strong and may elicit a hero fold, a call is okay.

I'm torn between calling and raising small OTR as JJ comes in. the question is, would she only bet 200 OTR? it's very possible as the board is paired, so she bets small either as a block or if she's thinking a bit, wanting thin value from OP's overpairs.

in OP's description she's got obvious bet sizing tells so she's not likely trying to run some tricky small bet size to get OP to own themselves. if we raise river, it all comes down to whether we think we can get value from QQ/KK on a paired one lined board where we have JJ in our range.

ultimately, I think the river is a call.
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03-31-2018 , 04:59 PM
In retrospect every single one of her bets was weak. She didn’t know where she was in the hand and didn’t know what else to do. She thought checking would allow me to bet bigger than she would bet herself and she wanted to get to showdown relatively cheaply. Like she definitely couldn’t have liked that 7 on the river. But if she checks I’m betting 500 bc I know she’s never checking a straight or boat and she knows this.

I was considering raising the turn but I thought that would fold out everything I was beating bc my line looks super strong and basically jacks is the bottom of my range.

I don’t know I took about 1500 from her pretty quickly in a couple hours but I was being results oriented at the time and questioned whether we could have doubled the value of this hand.
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04-01-2018 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Easy flop check. No overcards to your ace, very bad board for your range, this hand helps strengthen checking range. Also 2 streets of value is fine. Would rather cbet kings. You’re also getting raised a lot on this board.

Ap not folding yet

3b pre way bigger, at least 100

Exactly what he says. Go to at least 3x = 90 pre. Raising is bad -- yes you're protecting equity against KQ, KQ, and pockets -- but this board smashes her range pretty damn hard and you definitely can't go 3 streets with AA. Check back for pot control and be happy to play a smaller pot on this runout.
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04-01-2018 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SummerPokerPlayer
Exactly what he says. Go to at least 3x = 90 pre. Raising is bad -- yes you're protecting equity against KQ, KQ, and pockets -- but this board smashes her range pretty damn hard and you definitely can't go 3 streets with AA. Check back for pot control and be happy to play a smaller pot on this runout.
she's got way more JJ-KK combos than QJ or 88-TT based on OP's description. she has verified bet sizing tells. she overplays marginal hands. I'm assuming based off that, she doesn't hand read well. why would we ever pot control against this player type?
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04-02-2018 , 12:37 AM
I’ve played villian many times,she doesn’t fold to three bets if you’re under 35..make your sizing exploitably bigger.Flop check around 1/3 of time bet 2/3 ,or however you want to chop up up your frequency.most villains you will be getting two streets from but she likes to click buttons post so I’d lean towards betting flop even more.
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04-02-2018 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by adam levine
I’ve played villian many times,she doesn’t fold to three bets if you’re under 35..make your sizing exploitably bigger.Flop check around 1/3 of time bet 2/3 ,or however you want to chop up up your frequency.most villains you will be getting two streets from but she likes to click buttons post so I’d lean towards betting flop even more.
Yup, you're right. She hates folding against me and she clicks buttons. She floats with complete garbage. She wants to outplay me post.

If I bet 500 OTF, she would have insta-called with QQ.

If she has a hand, she doesn't think about what other people have. She's going with it all the way.
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