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Hand was from a while ago so I do not remember all info.

Villain MP (600$): Older man in his 60's. Is a reg who plays there almost every time I have been there. Plays very tight pre flop and fast plays his big hands with big bets post flop.

Hero EP+1(covers): 20's male, playing tight.


In EP+1 with 2-2

Ep Limps, Hero EP+1 Limps, Villain MP raises to 30, maybe 2-3 callers back to hero who calls.

Flop (120): 244

Checked to Villain: Bets 100 into 120.

Folds to Hero?

Usually OOP I am just check raising sets, but vs this type of opponent and with a paired board is the best play to let him barrel off? Reasoning being if I raise the flop I have no idea if he is able to get away from an overpair or not. Also I believe I have seen him cbet AK air when missed on the flop like this multiway, but like I said this was a while ago so I cant recall all the details. If he has an overpair my read is that he will get his stack in the middle by river if I flat.

Sounds like you've answered your own question. If you feel flatting will get you his stack a higher percentage of the time, definitely flat here. Raising only removes bluffs from his range that he will continue with.

call

Call.

If the opponent does not c bet air on this flop, and his range includes only overpairs, what would the best course of action be on a paired board with bottom set? vs a tight opponent such as this 1.

call as a default. if he's never cbetting without an overpair here and rarely if ever folding, then raise. Any A or K will kill your action against QQ for ex. But only ~18% chance of an A or K coming on turn.

Sounds like a good plan. In your experience, if the opponent only has AA KK QQ JJ on this board, how often do you expect each type of player to fold to a check raise?

Depends on how sticky he is. Old nits (assuming that's what he is) can be very sticky especially if he thinks it is at possible you have bluffed at anytime in your life ever. Calling a bet like that is a tad scarier than a raise so I think a lot of the time you make more money by raising. Exception would be some aggro who will bet-bet-bet no matter what you do. Click it back and see if he doesn't shove.

The more players that call his pre flop raise, the higher the % he should be able to get away from it post flop (more hands against his PP). He c-bet into 4 players, I'd be surprised if that was AK. So, after his sign of strength by c-betting into 4-people, a check-raise would look even stronger because you're basically telling him his overpair is behind. I'd flat. Good regs don't usually go broke with overpairs in multiway pots. Don't blow him off his hand.

i think v can bet c-betting non pair hands here

It's obviously possible but I'd be surprised if he fired a nearly pot size bet into 4-5 people on the flop without an overpair.

Easiest flat ever. We are OOP and there will be 320 in pot with 470 in back. I probably lead a lot of turns unless you are really confident he will bet.

Min-raise to $200.

I agree.

Stacks are fairly shallow, I don't expect Villain to be able to get away from much of anything on that flop. betting 4/5 pot into 5 players is a pretty strong action.

Minraise pretty much sucks him into calling a turn jam (if he doesn't just jam flop), and it also has an outside shot of inducing a spazz with AK/AQ.

I thought only fish min-rasised with the nuts?

Yup. Bet into passive players on the turn. Check to aggressive players. Previous observation about how aggressively your opponent plays overpairs will help you make the most $$ here.

LOL, some villains may view that as "raise to see where I'm at" with 77/88

Raising to $300+ looks pretty strong, we don't want V to fold any of his range, and we don't want overcards scaring off 99-KK on the turn, so we'll just try to get it in now when he shoves over top. If V calls then stack sizes are already set up for getting it in anyway. I'm not a big fan of min-raising in most situations, but when we have a boat and there are no scare cards that we're trying to avoid, it seems the best way to get the money in while effectively forcing V to a decision on the flop.

Also, I am a min-raising fish.

Minclick/150/shove

Blah, if we check raise he puts us on a 4 and folds his overpairs pretty often. This board would be better for check raising an omcdonknitstation if it was 742 rather than 442.

Let's call, wait for a flush draw to come in, THEN check/raise him. He'll put us on A3s or something and call. If he bets the turn big enough we can go all in, otherwise we can min-c/r then shove the river.

It sounds like this guy reliably bets big, especially when he has an overpair. If he's not as reliable at barreling, or it's a bad card like an A, we should lead the turn ourselves. Having the turn check through would be a disaster.

If he's the type to check the turn back, I like the 'small c/r then take the lead and let him get pot stuck' line better. I still think he finds quite a few folds with JJ though.

Any pocket pair has 4 outs against you here instead of the usual 2. Just sayin.

Would we bluff raise with 55 here to rep a 4?

Of course not, pretty much everyone here knows it would be spew to raise in general at llsnl against an obvious overpair.

As such, I'm raising here to about 275, and shoving turn. The only real way we aren't getting his stack here is if we call and an overcard peels on the turn. Get it in while he still has an overpair.

Yeah but bad players don't know that. They aren't folding an overpair on this flop.

That is why I'm saying to value raise

Raise to $200.