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2/5 00 deep 3b/AA from BB 2/5 00 deep 3b/AA from BB

11-08-2016 , 05:02 PM
I've been at the table for an hour. I've been playing relatively tight and have shown down mostly solid hands. V in the hand has played passively for the most part, but pushes the action when he has it. I've seen V get taken to valuetown (while in position) with TP- ten kicker by an Old Man Coffee who had TPTK, so he can be a little sticky. V had most his stack when I sat down.

V has $1300 and opens UTG to $15. Loose passive player calls on the btn. I (cover) look down and have AA in the BB and 3b to 65. V calls. Btn folds.

-I'm pretty sure I should have gone bigger here with my sizing. I'm thinking of going $75-$105. This would be based on my poor position and how deep we are.
-I range him on PP/ suited connectors 56s+/Ax suit/ Big Aces/ Broadways. Maybe this is wide. What range are you putting people on in 3b pots when they have position and are 200+bb deep? Maybe take out anything below AQ and KQ?

Flop ($140)
539
I bet $75. V calls.
-I range him on TT+; 99;55;33; 56s-KQd; Some floats with AQ+/KQ+He can't have Ax since I have the A
-I think my sizing on the flop could have been a little bigger. Somewhere between $80-110

Turn ($290)
539Q
-I check, V bets 135. I call.
-His bet sizing got me thinking he has a piece but not too much of a piece. I don't think he has a flush as I imagine he is betting bigger to get value but he may be suckering me in.
-I checked because I didn't want the pot to get too big. If I bet and then get raised, I'm left in a very tough spot. Maybe I should have gone with the old b/F with the sizing of $160 and play from there. Yes, the Q completed the flush but that is a very small percentage of his range.
-Ranging: TT/JJ should be checking unless he is bluffing with the hands. QQ should be betting. KK could be betting thinking he is ahead. Sets are still betting. Flushes are betting for value. 56s-9Ts should be checking but could be betting as a bluff. JTs is checking. AQ/ KQ/QJs could either be betting or checking.

River ($560)
539Q6
-I check, V bets $225. Hero?
-Range: Flushes beat me but I have the A. Bluffs of 56s (non-diamonds)/78 diamonds/ non diamonds got there. Sets beat me. I beat all Queens except a set of queens. I beat KK.
-River bet looks like a value bet trying to get called. There is an extremely small chance that he is bluffing. I under repped my hand when I checked the turn but are there enough combos for me to call.

Last edited by PositiveEV; 11-08-2016 at 05:07 PM.
2/5 00 deep 3b/AA from BB Quote
11-08-2016 , 05:37 PM
Call. Qd on board and Ad in your hand cuts his flush combos. Getting a good price to call, it's just a sigh call
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11-08-2016 , 05:42 PM
You're right about bigger sizings pre and post, and also about betfolding the turn although that depends on a lot. AP obvious snap no? We are letting him bet his bluffs after all.....
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11-08-2016 , 05:43 PM
Call.

Sounds like KQ off Kd.



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11-08-2016 , 05:52 PM
I think you played the hand fine and I like your hand history with a few less words.

Call now. You're beat a good clip here so don't sweat either decision otr but I think you're good >25% of the time
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11-08-2016 , 06:28 PM
does anyone else barrell turn?
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11-08-2016 , 06:45 PM
with the A I probably would, not to get someone off of a queen though. hp to 3/4p would give us extra value if we do hit a flush and he has a K/J. Also, a queen is prob not folding the turn anyway since he's loose.
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11-08-2016 , 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feel wrath
does anyone else barrell turn?
Pretty much every time, it's an awfully good card for hero to barrel - besides the obv NF equity, it knocks out a couple FD combos and gets mostly calls from half his TT/JJ, all KK, and likely his flopped/turned sets as well. He should rarely have Qx other than some Q9s and QQ. $145.
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11-09-2016 , 06:11 AM
River is a snap as played, he can't really have 2pr and with the A and Q accounted for it's kind of hard for him to have a flush also. Can never fold to less than half pot when our hand is so strong that he is reasonably likely to even be value betting worse.

I think turn is the more interesting decision point in the hand as barreling for value makes a lot of sense and we can easily have hands like AKx which he can expect us to barrel given that an overcard as well as a diamond hit, so we can get called by worse quite easily.
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11-09-2016 , 02:11 PM
It sounds like my reasoning is pretty standard.

It looks like people are on board with betting the turn. If raised, are you folding? If you call, what's the plan for blank rivers? C/F? Or C/ Soul read/ bet sizing?

Spoiler:
After the hand, he was 100% making a move on me on the river. He said he was thinking about betting between $3-$500. Are you calling that size river bet?
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11-09-2016 , 02:25 PM
You called? Its not clear
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11-09-2016 , 02:48 PM
If I bet turn I'm rly not expecting to get raised pretty much ever because hes going to flat his sets and flushes and just let us barrel probably. I think I'd just jam over a raise tbh because if he has a flush it's mostly going to be a very low one unless its exactly KJdd and he's going to be in a really tough spot calling with it, and sets are probably folding now if they spazzed out and raised for w.e. reason?

If I checked the turn I would literally be snapping even an all in bet as played OTR with your hand. Blocking the A kills so many of his flush combinations and a river shove would present such a polarized range that it's even more trivial than calling a smaller size tbh, you don't really have to worry that he's overbet jamming with a set or some funky 56s 2 pair or hands like that very much.

3-500 isn't even a question, I don't really think he's repping sets very much after he bets turn.
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11-15-2016 , 11:29 PM
I snap called.

Spoiler:
56cc
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11-16-2016 , 10:25 AM
bet/call turn - you are not in a tough spot - you have the nut blocker. You can even jam turn if he raises and be pretty confident he doesn't have a flush. Flushes are extremely hard to hit, and he shouldn't have too many flushes in his range. You are 260bb deep which should be fine to jam AdAs here as you are never drawing dead and you should have fold equity if behind. It's a higher variance play but isn't bad.

- as played call river.

once you check turn you cannot possibly fold. You will get played back if you check this turn vs most players

If he has you beat it's unlucky.


edit - i just looked at what he called you with - he's a total fish imo. He raised pre UTG in a bad spot with a hand he should of folded, and than called a 3bet. Your 3bet was a little too small, but doesn't mater. He than bet turn when you checked, which was pretty bad since he didn't really need to turn his hand into a bluff. He should of checked behind turn. Your mistake was checking turn.
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11-16-2016 , 10:38 AM
If V checked turn I don't think I'd have a problem with any of his actions in the hand. 56s is loose pre but not if we're letting him realize equity for free while 260bb deep and presumably still paying off often. It's prob quite good in fact, he should have bombed river though with that hand.
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11-17-2016 , 06:59 AM
I agree with 3! bigger pre and bigger otf as well. Calling otr seems ok. He demonstrated that he would go for thin value vs an omc, even though this is a 3! pot and a different spot I think based off his smaller sizing and the possibility that he is capable of thin value among other possible stickinesss calling otr isnt bad. Sucks he had it here but I think I would call a larger bet so I would look at it as a not so bad.

All in all I thought the hand was well played
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