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Old 02-15-2018, 11:30 AM   #26
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

OK this is pretty stupid to continue arguing about but it couldve easily have been

UTG limps
MP straddles $10
Hero limps button
SB completes...or calls (if you want to use that term)
BB completes..or calls

Not sure why OP even mentioned that UTG likes to limp/reraise. Hes not even involved in the hand. More confusion IMO.

Whatever. I just wont respond when the OP isnt clear to me. Problem solved.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:39 AM   #27
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

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Not sure why OP even mentioned that UTG likes to limp/reraise. Hes not even involved in the hand. More confusion IMO.
she was explaining why she overlimped Q9s otb vs iso
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:42 AM   #28
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

Please explain what game you are playing where somebody can limp and then after that player has limped somebody else can say "straddle" and now there is a straddle on ... cuz it certainly isn't hold'em.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:05 PM   #29
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

^^ Whenever I wake up with a big hand and there are a couple of limps before me, I always try to declare a straddle but for some reason the dealer always shuts me down
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:10 PM   #30
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

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Please explain what game you are playing where somebody can limp and then after that player has limped somebody else can say "straddle" and now there is a straddle on ... cuz it certainly isn't hold'em.
Well the OP says that the straddler "competes" so he/she obviously inst clear on terminology.

Who said anything about someone straddling after someone limped?

How are we supposed to know the difference between someone straddling in MP and then UTG limping for $10....and someone straddling UTG and then the actual UTG+1 (who was referred to as UTG) limping?
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:18 PM   #31
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How are we supposed to know the difference between someone straddling in MP and then UTG limping for $10....and someone straddling UTG and then the actual UTG+1 (who was referred to as UTG) limping?
I'd start with having any semblance of reading comprehension/common sense
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:30 PM   #32
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Well the OP says that the straddler "competes" so he/she obviously inst clear on terminology.

Who said anything about someone straddling after someone limped?
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OK this is pretty stupid to continue arguing about but it couldve easily have been

UTG limps
MP straddles $10
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Umm ... you did?

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How are we supposed to know the difference between someone straddling in MP and then UTG limping for $10....and someone straddling UTG and then the actual UTG+1 (who was referred to as UTG) limping?
By having a reading comprehension level on par with a 3rd grader.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:25 PM   #33
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

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Well the OP says that the straddler "competes" so he/she obviously inst clear on terminology.

Who said anything about someone straddling after someone limped?

How are we supposed to know the difference between someone straddling in MP and then UTG limping for $10....and someone straddling UTG and then the actual UTG+1 (who was referred to as UTG) limping?
She.

UTG can't limp if the button hasn't acted yet, if the straddle is not to UTG's right.

I get that it wasn't worded perfectly, but everyone seemed to have understood it.
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Old 02-16-2018, 08:56 AM   #34
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She.

UTG can't limp if the button hasn't acted yet, if the straddle is not to UTG's right.

I get that it wasn't worded perfectly, but everyone seemed to have understood it.
UTG cant limp if the button hasnt acted yet? Huh? UTG is first to act. He does whatever he is going to do before anyone acts.

This is getting more and more bizarre
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:19 AM   #35
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UTG cant limp if the button hasnt acted yet? Huh? UTG is first to act. He does whatever he is going to do before anyone acts.

This is getting more and more bizarre
lol dude holy ****.

if there was a straddle in MP (like you said it was possible to interpret the OP as), action would start to the left of the straddle. therefore the BTN would act BEFORE the UTG player preflop.

you might have the worst reading comprehension i have ever seen lol. if you are not trolling idk what to say.
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:28 AM   #36
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

OK, you got me this time. I can admit when Im wrong.
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:19 AM   #37
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Re: [2/5/10] Q9s turns two pair, unraised pot

Enjoyed the "who's on first" comedy ITT. fwiw, the HH was easier to understand when I just glossed over it without examining the details.

I would play the hand the same way OP did.
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