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07-11-2017 , 10:53 PM
Hero (1700) is UTG 6 handed. Raises to 50 UTG A9

I made it 50 because the button is a huge calling station and the straddle loves to resteal his straddle with Kx type hands and i wanted to make it a little harder for him.

Button (900) calls everyone else folds.

Reads on button:

He absolutely loves suited cards. He has gotten half a doxen flushes on me at least. I once had AA and raised over his limp. Flop was Q84. I bet and he check raised. He only had 300 behind so i put him all in. His 27 held.

Later he limped in and the flop was A55dd. He ended up going broke on river when the diamond got there and the other guy showed A5

Lol

Flop is 962

I bet 100 v calls

Turn 9

I bet 175 v calls

River 7

I bet 225 villan shoves, i call

Thoughts?
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07-11-2017 , 11:09 PM
Sucks on the river, but I think this is a call.

You can fold smaller 9s since he might just have K9 and think it's the nuts still.

I'd have bet bigger (like $250) on the turn to set up a better river jam, though.
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07-12-2017 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JB Clark
the button is a huge calling station
Folding river. If he just had a 9, I think we hear about it on the turn.
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07-12-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Sucks on the river, but I think this is a call.

You can fold smaller 9s since he might just have K9 and think it's the nuts still.

I'd have bet bigger (like $250) on the turn to set up a better river jam, though.
+1 with everything
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07-12-2017 , 12:30 PM
Raising A9s UTG would be an exception rather than the rule for me.

Other than that I like how you played it. Since you 4 barreled V can think any 9 is good here, or even think is a great spot to bluff you off an overpair.

It's a bit of a crying call and life sucks when villain flips over 22 or 5s4s.

That said in villains shoes the turn is still pretty dry (if I am villain I am not super worried about hero having a FD with this action) so I think villain calling with 9x to set up a river shove over an overpair is totally reasonable.

V has more worse 9's and bluffs in his range than FHs and backdoor flushes so I call.
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07-12-2017 , 12:38 PM
why are you potting the flop?

the river sizing was much smaller compared to the other streets and for someone who loves to chase flushes who's jamming a paired board with a possible flush, I don't see how we can be ahead. I would need more reads.
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07-12-2017 , 12:57 PM
Well i sized the bets progressively dowm because he never folds this flop. He is a huge target for 2 barrels because he floats 100% with gutterballs and random air. Hes a big whale in this game.

Im not too unhappy with the way i played it until this decision point. I know v pretty well. He has taken A LOT of money from me running like god.

Not sure if i gave enough info on this guy but i had a session with him where i had KK on Q53ss board, bet flop, turn 6s, i had ks so i bet he called, river i checked back he had 47dd

Another hand i had KK and 5 bet him and he beat me with A7s after peeling a dry flop

He doesnt fold suits pre and peels flops thin, so i guess that widens the hands he could have at the river. Set on flop or straight draw are just a part of his range

Last edited by JB Clark; 07-12-2017 at 01:04 PM.
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07-12-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by randomcards
Raising A9s UTG would be an exception rather than the rule for me.
Even six-handed?
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07-12-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Sucks on the river, but I think this is a call.

You can fold smaller 9s since he might just have K9 and think it's the nuts still.

I'd have bet bigger (like $250) on the turn to set up a better river jam, though.
This is good. River really does suck. Bigger bet on turn would make it easier, but still sucks.

Would a check/call on river be better?

Also, does he bluff here? You have not mentioned bluffing from him, just running like a god. The more I read about this guy, the more I question the river. I'd need to know he's capable of bluffing here, because if not, the only hand we beat is a random 9.

BTW, please put pot size on each street. So much easier for us.

Last edited by Javanewt; 07-12-2017 at 01:22 PM.
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07-12-2017 , 02:25 PM
No way am i putting in stack sizes. We live players have to count as we go so why not get practice?

I need to call 450 more into a pot of 1675 so only need to be good about 25%

I have never seen him bluff
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07-12-2017 , 02:41 PM
I don't see how the bet size on the turn matters all that much... On river, there is $650 in pot and effective stacks are $575, right? When you have the worse hand, you are losing the maximum amount here, no way to get away from it.

As played on river, maybe check/call if you think he would bet a pocket pair or air here (air seems really unlikely). If he has trips or better seems like all the money is going in whether you check or bet.
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07-12-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JB Clark
No way am i putting in stack sizes. We live players have to count as we go so why not get practice?

I need to call 450 more into a pot of 1675 so only need to be good about 25%

I have never seen him bluff
LOL. I don't need practice looking at numbers on a computer screen and having to go back and calculate pot sizes to post in a forum. Not helpful at all to my game at the table, and I'm sure not anyone else's.

Adding pot sizes is part of the correct way to write a HH and just plain old courteous, too.

If you have never seen him bluff I'm not sure you should call, but odds are decent. What air is he raising with? The only hand we beat is a complete bluff or a 9.
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07-12-2017 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Adding pot sizes is part of the correct way to write a HH and just plain old courteous, too.
Also gives others a chance to correct any errors. OP says "need to call 450 more into a pot of 1675". Is that right? After river all-in (and effective stack began at 900)

hero:
has bet 550 = 50+100+175+225
and has 350 left

villain is all-in for 900

So hero needs to call 350 to win 1450, right?
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07-12-2017 , 04:08 PM
It seemed like this guy could be aggressive based on the original info, but later info suggests he's pretty passive. Trips with top kicker seems so good here against a calling station that you just plan to bet each street.

For bet/fold to work there it seems you have a really good sense of how he plays 2p vs trips vs FH/straight/flush. Is he folding 88 at any point? If not, I don't know how anything except a roughly pot-sized bet on each street makes sense.
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07-13-2017 , 04:38 AM
I fold pre

play flop the same

play turn the same

bet river $385ish

as played:

call ..
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07-14-2017 , 02:42 AM
So he showed up with KsQs for the flush AGAIN

In game i snap called without a second thought but was wondering if i could have found a fold. He NEVER bluffs and im only beating 9x which is preposterous to think he has that.

Sigh.

Whats worst about this hand is that villain lost all of the money he won from me, which including this hand amounted to well over 3k, plus another 10kish. I went HU with him 7 times and won zero. He got 3 flushes, a straight and spiked an ace on the turn in a 5 bet pot vs me when i held KK. What did i do to piss off the poker gods?

And to make it even worse, villain moved to the seat next to mine and proceeded to complain about how he never gets anything when he went card dead for all of half an hour

Sigh.
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