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Old 10-20-2016, 03:50 AM   #1
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2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Effective stacks with villain is 1,100ish

Not much history with villain but I know he plays for a living and is decent to good.

Villain probably views hero as competent but semi tight but really no idea as very little history.

Straddle is on. Hero has AsAc in SB

3 Limper's including 2 fish and 2 folds to villain OTB who raises to $50, hero raises to $160, everyone folds except villain who calls.

Flop $360: Qh6d3x

Hero bets $170, villain calls

Turn $700: 7h

Hero bets $280, villain calls.

River $1260: Jh

Hero? Villain has ~500 left.

I guess I ****ed up the sizing. Shoulda bet more on flop and jam turn I think thoughts on sizing and river action AP?
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Old 10-20-2016, 05:35 AM   #2
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

More every street and shove river as played. Should be sizing to get in by turn though.
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:04 AM   #3
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Good 3bet size out of the blinds it looks a bit squeezy.

250 on flop and jam river looks like it adds more bluffs to your range and seems preferable vs good opponents

If the hand gets to showdown, I'm looking for spots to squeeze villains button raises later with similar dynamics
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:31 AM   #4
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2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Why more otf? This is a super dry board and a 3! Pot, we shouldn't be going nuts just because we have AA. Presumably people at this level should be good enough to realize if your bombing with good hands and not with others, so let's make our bluffs cheaper + we should have zero problems getting it all in by the river, no need to rush

OTT though, that is quite small. Are you trying to induce a shove? Either way, you could have jammed turn with your flop sizing if you wanted, or slowly massaged the money into the pot

AP river is a shove.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:31 AM   #5
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

[QUOTE=johnny_on_the_spot;51015866]Why more otf? This is a super dry board and a 3! Pot, we shouldn't be going nuts just because we have AA. Presumably people at this level should be good enough to realize if your bombing with good hands and not with others, so let's make our bluffs cheaper + we should have zero problems getting it all in by the river, no need to rush

More on flop because I want to continue with my light squeeze narrative, putting pressure on my opponent OOP just as I would with A5s on this board. I'm trying to get bluff caught by a thinking player

What do we do with QJ here?
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:43 PM   #6
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Nice hand. Now shove river.
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Old 10-20-2016, 12:56 PM   #7
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2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

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More on flop because I want to continue with my light squeeze narrative, putting pressure on my opponent OOP just as I would with A5s on this board. I'm trying to get bluff caught by a thinking player

What do we do with QJ here?

100bb deep you want to put in almost half your stack with a bluff? That doesn't seem prudent to me

Why on earth would we ever have QJ here? That seems like the epitome of ROI
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:05 PM   #8
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

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Why more otf? This is a super dry board and a 3! Pot, we shouldn't be going nuts just because we have AA. Presumably people at this level should be good enough to realize if your bombing with good hands and not with others, so let's make our bluffs cheaper + we should have zero problems getting it all in by the river, no need to rush

OTT though, that is quite small. Are you trying to induce a shove? Either way, you could have jammed turn with your flop sizing if you wanted, or slowly massaged the money into the pot

AP river is a shove.

This. I see no problem with flop sizing. I understand live regs two streets' poker works most of time as player pool are just bad.

Turn sizing can be bigger though.
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:15 PM   #9
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

[QUOTE=johnny_on_the_spot;51017256]100bb deep you want to put in almost half your stack with a bluff?
Certainly

Why on earth would we ever have QJ here?
KQs? Would you 3bet pre with that?
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:18 PM   #10
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

If anything flop is too big. 100 on the flop, 260 on the turn, jam the river. As played, jam the river
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:45 PM   #11
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Bet more on flop and turn and then you don't have to play the river....

I think the moral of the story is you need to have a plan and structure your bets accordingly...
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Old 10-20-2016, 05:30 PM   #12
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

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Nice hand. Now shove river.
This. Ur sizing is fine.
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Old 10-20-2016, 05:40 PM   #13
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

Does anyone think jamming river might be too thin vs this opp?

I think KK is heavily discounted as no 4bet pre and what else are we being called by? 1 combo of AQs, a few combos of AQo, and 3 combos of KQs maybe? Maybe 3 combos of QTs?

We lose to 3 combos of QJs (which he maybe just folds pre), ~11 combos of sets (I think he folds JJ on the turn, and calls like ~half the time pre with QQ), 4 combos of 45s (but I guess those are really discounted because with the fish he wouldn't raise to $50 pre; he'd limp behind), and maybe 1 combo of AKhh that floated the flop.

The problem is I think he might fold his KQ, QT combos OTT or OTR. So we get called by AQ which we block super hard, and KK which has to be discounted some.

FWIW I jammed river without thinking about it too much.

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Old 10-20-2016, 07:59 PM   #14
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Re: 2/5/10 AA in 3bet pot vs good reg

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Does anyone think jamming river might be too thin vs this opp?

I think KK is heavily discounted as no 4bet pre and what else are we being called by? 1 combo of AQs, a few combos of AQo, and 3 combos of KQs maybe? Maybe 3 combos of QTs?

We lose to 3 combos of QJs (which he maybe just folds pre), ~11 combos of sets (I think he folds JJ on the turn, and calls like ~half the time pre with QQ), 4 combos of 45s (but I guess those are really discounted because with the fish he wouldn't raise to $50 pre; he'd limp behind), and maybe 1 combo of AKhh that floated the flop.

The problem is I think he might fold his KQ, QT combos OTT or OTR. So we get called by AQ which we block super hard, and KK which has to be discounted some.

FWIW I jammed river without thinking about it too much.
If you can't value jam this river then villain is a nit and you should be bluffing him relentlessly.

Folding the turn with JJ is also too tight.

I like how you played the hand. IDK why people think this should be a two street hand. A thinking player should understand that we can/will also size small with our bluffs on this board.
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