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Old 10-17-2016, 01:26 PM   #1
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2/5/10 200bbs +

Just moved to the table as my table broke, waiting to get on the PLO game. 1200ish.

v1 hairy asian fella with some sort of mullet. No reads as im not even at the table an orbit and ive never played with him. Sitting on around 2000. Hasnt played a pot to this point.

v2 younger kid sitting around 1000. Passive from what ive seen.

i make it 35 pre with KQo, v1 and v2 call as well as BB (irrelevant)

Flop comes QJ3dd. I make it 65. V1 and V2 call and BB folds.

Turn 5h. I ... ?
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:38 PM   #2
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

bet 3/4 pot or possibly full pot
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:59 PM   #3
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

u wanted to raise and lead oop then keep betting until they play back to you? check ang A/ diamond river.

same as in omaha no? be the betting machine until someone plays back to you or scare card hits

agree on big bet 3/4 pot
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:51 PM   #4
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

Ok ... so i lead 175. Both V call. Kc River ... 770ish effective left.... now what?
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:51 PM   #5
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

ai
this is one of better runouts
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:38 PM   #6
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

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ai
this is one of better runouts
this is the nut worst river what are you talking about? The only hand we now beat that beat us before is QJ which would have raised a huge % of the time by now.

I check and probably fold if the bet is too big. Two players behind very likely one has T9, ATs.

I would bet at least 225 on turn though, possible +
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Old 10-17-2016, 06:36 PM   #7
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

id be interested to run the ev calcs of a river bet here and if you wanna bet and for what sizing. theres kind of alot of str8 combos youll see from 2 ranges here. ^good point
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:40 AM   #8
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

it s not the worst card but it s one if those scary card.

agree bet bigger turn or not check - AP u grow the pot Oop without denying any odds so it should keep you guessing.

if we want to run the maths u need to know JQ3dd means JdQd on the flop or not and whether we have Kd?

anyway, AP I do not see any set or JQ there.

We need the suits: is Jd on the board? (is JdKd possible from our opponent?)

I suggest a check given the passive profile described from those vilain?
But if the other one with 200bb deep he knows it s a spot and u can face big bet.

i might get flammed but :

- if u feel or judge ur opponent are not willing to bluff then check/fold (call thin value from KdJd if such hand is possible)

- if u feel or judge ur opponent as less likely to bluff raise without str8 if u continue the lead then maybe a bet of 250 and fold to raise?

i know some live ppls would thin value Kd here thin ("putting u on Q" but not realizing that if u have Q from ur shoes it can of course be AQ but also JQ/KQ)

hence i do believe thin value/blocking bet river with kQ is an option
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:13 AM   #9
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Re: 2/5/10 200bbs +

It was QdJd3x . I agree that this is literally the WORST card in the deck.
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:53 PM   #10
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2/5/10 200bbs +

Since the pot is hovering around 300$ on the turn, and it's a draw heavy board, I'm also agreeing to make a larger bet on the turn to force flush/straight draws to pay.

As played: thin value bet/fold to a shove

I think AT/9T suited combos are definitely in range which made this a pretty sick run out :/

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