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03-02-2017 , 11:01 AM
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donbarzini
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I have 325 in a 2/4 NL game. Both villains cover.

I have been there about 40 minutes and I probably look like a noob since I hadn't been to the room before and I didnt know how to post right, etc. I have played a few pots, but nothing special.

MP limps. He seems like a LAG regular in this game.
Hero HJ AcAs - raise to 25
SB calls. Another regular. Not as aggro, but seems solid.
MP folds.

Flop
Jd 9h 8h

SB leads for 40.

help.
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03-02-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Ouch. Terrible flop for AA. I probably call and proceed cautiously. Nothing wrong with folding, either. Raising is an option because this board is so draw-heavy, but if he is on a draw, you could have a ton of outs to fade.

If you fold, which is fine, do not show!
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03-02-2017 , 12:03 PM
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I doubt V is just going to donk into us with a hand better than AA.

we started the hand with 80 bbs. We have an SPR of 4. We have the drawiest board imaginable. I think this is just a grit your teeth and raise the flop and GII if he comes back over the top and hold on for dear life.

Make it $110. never folding. Shoving most turns if he calls. Probably checking back T,J,Q,7
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03-02-2017 , 12:10 PM
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I doubt V is just going to donk into us with a hand better than AA.
If I were V and thought H had AA and I could beat AA, I'd donk every time -- mainly because people can't seem to fold AA.

Also, if he can't beat AA, raising just let's him get away from his worse hands, unless he has a great draw in which case he wants to gii (and we want him too, also, I agree, but it would/should have to be a monster draw for him to call).
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03-02-2017 , 12:28 PM
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If I were V and thought H had AA and I could beat AA, I'd donk every time -- mainly because people can't seem to fold AA.

Also, if he can't beat AA, raising just let's him get away from his worse hands, unless he has a great draw in which case he wants to gii (and we want him too, also, I agree, but it would/should have to be a monster draw for him to call).
First part. True, though this was a single raised pot from the CO pre. I don't think V has any reason to put us on a super premium holding just yet.

I think his donk is going to be Kj,QJ,JT,9T type hands a lot of the time. Also JhXh and some other strong heart draws. I'm not sure he gets away from a lot of those to a flop raise.

I'm ok with calling too, but there are a lot of turn cards that are going to make our life difficult.
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03-02-2017 , 01:31 PM
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First part. True, though this was a single raised pot from the CO pre. I don't think V has any reason to put us on a super premium holding just yet.

I think his donk is going to be Kj,QJ,JT,9T type hands a lot of the time. Also JhXh and some other strong heart draws. I'm not sure he gets away from a lot of those to a flop raise.

I'm ok with calling too, but there are a lot of turn cards that are going to make our life difficult.
I will add that the standard raise at this table was 15 or 20. My raise to 25 was maybe noteworthy to the V. Mistake or standard?
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03-02-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Even with a limper, $15 or $20 was standard? Was this your first raise? If not, what did you raise to before? With or w/o limpers?

Doubt it makes too much of a difference, though. Just remember in future to try to keep raises the same based on position, limpers, etc., not on hand strength.
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03-02-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Even with a limper, $15 or $20 was standard? Was this your first raise? If not, what did you raise to before? With or w/o limpers?

Doubt it makes too much of a difference, though. Just remember in future to try to keep raises the same based on position, limpers, etc., not on hand strength.
i was raising 15 to open, and 20 after a limp...though this a v small # of number of hands since I hadn't been there long.

I usually mix in some larger raise sizes so that I can raise large with premiums later, but I kind of forgot that I hadn't done any of that at this table. Your advice makes more sense.
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03-02-2017 , 03:17 PM
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Ugh, villan dependant either a call or a raise, to many js in villans range here to fold aa yet. Against most villans I think this is a call. Scare cards are going to stop villan fron bareling sets, and 2ps and if he bets when a t, 7,q or heart turns up we can confidently fold this.
Blank turns are tough if he barrels but I think we probably have to call again, but I hate it.
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