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03-09-2015 , 03:16 PM
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I'm just wondering if someone could analyse my play here.

I'm BB with KQ
UTG is a reg

UTG raises to 10
I call on BB (total of 7 to the flop)

Flop = Qh Tc 8h

UTG bets $35 into $70
MP calls
I raise to $140
UTG goes all in for $330 (190 on top)
MP folds

What do I do?

UTG - due to his small raise UTG I put him on any two pair, bottom or mid set, A and K high flush draws or a straight.
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03-09-2015 , 03:31 PM
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As played, this is a fold. You turned your hand into a bluff. I like a preflop squeeze play if you read his $10 open as weak. Also fine to c/c on the flop. By this point he's established that he has a huge hand - top 2, a set, a straight. You aren't getting the right odds against those hands.
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03-09-2015 , 03:41 PM
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If he plays flush draws like this, it's probably a call getting 2:1. He could also have something like QJ-98.

I don't like the raise. TPGK is not a good hand on this board with 7 to the flop. If you decide to continue, it's probably best to just call the flop bet and lead a favorable turn. c/f if a scary card comes off. You're putting yourself in an impossible position by raising, because he has a ton of monster hands and a ton of big draws that he will play the same way, and you just don't have the firepower to roll with that range.
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03-09-2015 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamitontheriver
As played, this is a fold. You turned your hand into a bluff. I like a preflop squeeze play if you read his $10 open as weak. Also fine to c/c on the flop. By this point he's established that he has a huge hand - top 2, a set, a straight. You aren't getting the right odds against those hands.
I feel it's hard to fold here we need to call $190 to take a $575 pot. If he has A and K high flush draws, it's very close I think. I feel his $35 into the $75 pot makes it plausible he was trying to get several callers to give himself good pot odds to draw, if that makes sense. Then raising all in guarantees he sees 2 cards, his A or K is a possible out and he has fold equity on top.
Maybe I'm missing something?

Also, good point on the preflop squeeze play. That did enter my mind, however the table was kind of loose. I couldn't decide on a good size. What do you think is a good size squeeze preflop? Around $100?
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03-09-2015 , 06:44 PM
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If he plays flush draws like this, it's probably a call getting 2:1. He could also have something like QJ-98.

I don't like the raise. TPGK is not a good hand on this board with 7 to the flop. If you decide to continue, it's probably best to just call the flop bet and lead a favorable turn. c/f if a scary card comes off. You're putting yourself in an impossible position by raising, because he has a ton of monster hands and a ton of big draws that he will play the same way, and you just don't have the firepower to roll with that range.
Looking back I agree 100%
I'm used to playing 6-max online where tables are tighter and there's never 7 to the flop lol. I try to play extra tight/aggressive preflop live to avoid these tricky situations and isolate but what could I do with KQ on bb?

It's a tough situation on the flop. I can't fold, and calling means more tough decisions on the turn/river. I was hoping a raise would take down the pot right there.
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03-10-2015 , 09:15 AM
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call pre
call flop
turn?
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03-10-2015 , 09:27 AM
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I don't think KQ is ever good enough to get in 160 big blinds against six hands on this board.

Either 3 bet pre or nut peddle*. That is the reality at most live low stakes no limit tables.

*Even sometimes when you three bet pre you will find yourself 4 or 5 ways in which case you still essentially are forced to nut peddle.
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03-10-2015 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightcall91
I feel it's hard to fold here we need to call $190 to take a $575 pot. If he has A and K high flush draws, it's very close I think. I feel his $35 into the $75 pot makes it plausible he was trying to get several callers to give himself good pot odds to draw, if that makes sense. Then raising all in guarantees he sees 2 cards, his A or K is a possible out and he has fold equity on top.
Maybe I'm missing something?

Also, good point on the preflop squeeze play. That did enter my mind, however the table was kind of loose. I couldn't decide on a good size. What do you think is a good size squeeze preflop? Around $100?
I like to go big at these low stakes - between $100 and $110 preflop here. You are the only player whose range isn't capped since you are last to act and you can easily rep a huge hand that wants to isolate rather than play 7 handed to the flop.

I really think that a flush draw is a small part of his range here. He might do this with combo draws, true, but he's also doing it with strong made hands, all of which have you crushed. People really like to hero call and put others on flush draws in situations like these, only to find out that their opponent is nutted up. You are drawing dead so often here and even in a best case scenario are flipping. I'd let it go.
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03-10-2015 , 09:39 AM
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Also useful to know if you have the King of hearts. If you do, that blocks some of his combo draws and makes it even easier to let it go.
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