2/4 full ring max bi 400

V1: 30s Asian reg who plays something like 20/10. Most notable hand is he 3bet shipped T7o on JT7ss flop against tight player and scooped for a full double up. Covers. Utg

V2: 20 something white guy. Loose passive fish. Recently sat down and has shown up with all sorts of junk.
350ish. HJ

Hero. Young white guy. Tight image. Has been raising post in good spots but only ever showed down with it.
550. CO

Pre.
V1 opens to 15 (standard size for this table)
V2 calls.
Hero calls with Ah4h (can give thoughts but I think just calling ip is pretty standard here)
Blinds fold.

Flop (51)
AdKh7h
V1 bets 25
V2 calls
Hero?

This is a hand I'd consider 3! Lite with in some spots. However not here vs an utg open from a reg who should have a tight utg opening range if he's opening 10% total.

I actually don't think cold calling Arag suited is profitable here.

Fold pre

Vs a tight UTG open, you're either dominated or won't get any money out of him

Fold flop

A tight PFR cbet a AKx 2 tone board against 2 Vs OOP, either he has a good hand or he's being very optimistic. Also becaus the V in between you called, there is a very real possibility he has a FD. About the only good turn cards for you are a 4 that isn't a heart

When you call this, what exactly are your plans for all turns that are not a 4?

My above comment was relating to preflop.


You realize hero has nut heart draw??

Call

If we make money on this hand it's from hands crushing us ATM or over flushing the field caller. Utg is never folding better or calling with worse.

We are getting 4:1 call.

Call.

Do not raise this player. His continuing range has you crushed.

Grunch: I actually fold this pre if V is really playing 20/10 overall (which is very tight for live), as his range UTG should crush the hell out of us, we didn't get enough donks calling to make up for our deficiency against his range, and we aren't really deep enough. If he had three callers, I'd join the parade for sure. Two would be iffy, and one (as seen) would be a definite no.

AP: We have TP and the NFD, so folding is obviously never an option. Calling turns our hand (the FD part) face up, so it seems our IOs would be bad against V1. V2 could have a FD too, and overflushing him could be a chance to play for stacks.

All options but folding are on the table here, and I'm not hugely convinced of the order of value.

I like a smallish raise, say about $75. If V1 was just on a c-bet, we're never getting any more out of him anyway. V2 isn't folding any draws and likely not any aces for that price. If raised by V1, we prob have to fold, and that would suck. On the other hand, if called by V1 we can likely shove all blank turns as a semi-bluff, and if called by V2 we can continue to bet for value to look to set up an AI OTR if the flush comes in.

I think small raise>call>big raise here, but it's close.

Garrick, plan for bricked turns? If v1 calls we are surely behind and our flop raise will have him in a x/c shell much of the time he doesn't 3! Flop. Do we take the free river and fold bricked rivers when he leads? Or are you following through with a turn barrel?

From my post above: "if called by V1 we can likely shove all blank turns as a semi-bluff"

I did not (hence my comment about worrying about FDs), obv we shouldn't fold OTF getting 4:1 with the NFD

Gotcha I don't read so good I guess sometimes.

cAreadingisfundamentalAm

Raise to $65-$75. If you whiff turn and get checked to, take the free card. If you bink, proceed accordingly. It's a textbook play that I think has a good chance of working here.

Consider your image. You've raised in good spots, and this is another good spot. V1 is betting just under half pot, so your raise here puts him to a decision to continue with everything except one pair Ax hands. If he flats with AQ/AJ and turn doesn't hit a Q/J, he's going to check again. This keeps you in the driver's seat. You can then decide to take that free card, or bet heavy if you think he's capable of folding one pair OTT against a flop raise.

Consider the possibility that he might be betting out KQ/KJ. From his POV it's better to be betting those hands than check-call, and he'd be right.

You rep such a narrow range by raising this flop (77, maybe A7). He's never folding AK,AQ, AA or KK and rarely folding AJ. He might fold 2nd pairs and underpairs but you are already ahead of those.

It would be an absolute travesty if you made V2 fold a weaker flush draw. Also getting re-popped isn't the best situation because your forced to flip for stacks.

Fold pre. AP call flop.

Pre is totally fine getting 2:1 in good position with nearly 40 bets left in stacks. Agree with OP that calling is standard here.

Call flop.

Thanks for the interest. I think I made a few mistakes in this hand and has been on my mind despite a decent session. In hindsight I think I should have semi-bluff raised here and I'd done something similar in a similar spot where I raised flop and fired turn when the draws came in.
Hero calls flop.
Turn (126)
Qh
V1 quickly checks. Read here was that he'd fired and for called in two spots and wasn't happy.
V2 checks.
And hero????

Regarding fold pre - we know we are behind with A4s if we flop an ace and villain leads into us. That's not what we play for. We play for two pair, wheel draws, pair and flush draws, etc.

It's still pretty close though, but ~135 bigs deep I think we can make a call as long as we are very disciplined on A-high flops. Since his range is so tight (and UTG) we can't 3! here, but I think calling is marginally better than folding for a solid player.

As played - bet $75 on the turn. Looking for value from the Q, sets or just big aces that don't believe us for the small size of our bet.

Bet $65-$80 OTT.

If river doesn't fill up or add a fourth heart, overbet pot if checked to.

100

Bet something on the turn. Not big, the two checks show a lack of interest in the pot and it's hard for anybody else to have a good hand here. I like $75. You want to get value if somebody has set/two pair or a single good heart.

Mostly though you are trying to get some value now because the board is so scary that you are likely to get folds on the river. If you are lucky V2 has a worse flush and will raise you but it's very unlikely.

55-70 max. Price in V1s FH draws and V2s Jh pair+FD junk (and JT). Smaller sizing might induce a spazz at some point from V2 and also tends to lower their riv ck-f frequency when you size turn-riv affordably.

CALL flop. Your entire flop raising range will be perceived as a semibluff given you should have so few value raises here. Your IO are there for at least one additional street of value against one or both of these guys when you bink, so dont inflate your equity cost for fear of EV loss.

Surely +ev to raise as when I miss most, if not all, one pair hands have to consider folding from continued aggression from blank turns. He probably puts AK inmy range as he would definitely flat AK ip pre. A big combo draw like JTh or top pair and the nfd is probably the bottom of my perceived range here. So hands as good as AQ and AJ should fold here.
It also allows me to check behind if i read him as super strong with something like AA or KK (given he doesn't 3bet ship flop) and hopefully bink river.

Hero checks behind on turn.
I know this definitely is a mistake but idk what V1 would check here as this queen seems to hit his range. I put V1 on like AJ or AT with no heart or maybe a PP. Idk about V2 but he seems to have not much of it.
River is Tc
V1 quickly bets 75.
V2 folds.
Hero raises to?

I don't mind the check back since you have a TAG image a bet on the turn feels like a Flush bet and might or probably will get a fold. By checking back we allow the villain to take another stab which he did. I would probably pop it to about $180-$225 range here but I wouldn't rush the raise

Never found anyone that could fold for an even $100 on top.

Raise river to $225-$255.