Villain is UTG1 with 300$(newer to the table but has opened a lot of pots and shown down marginal hands played poorly).

Hero is on the BTN with $600 TT

UTG Raises 12$
Btn 3bets 36$
UTG Calls

Flop QQ8 (pot 68$)

UTG Bets $25
Hero Calls $25

Turn 2 (pot $118)

UTG Bets $40
Hero Calls $40

River 10 (Pot $198)

Utg Bets $100
Hero?????

Call pre, do not 3-bet.

Flop is ok.

Turn is marginal but ok I guess as long as you're planning to fold to a good size river bet.

Shove the river. It's not close.

he has QT you should probably fold

Thanks

I was planning to fold to a river bet on any card other than the T, I just wasn't sure if shoving here was the right line. The only hands at river that beat me are Q8/QQ/QT/Q2 and I felt that it was more likely given the preflop action that he would have hands like AQ/KQ/QJ/QQ.

Preflop I normally would just Call 99-JJ against most players raising from EP but this player since he sat at the table was showing that he liked to play a lot of hands regardless of position.

Thanks for posting

Here's kind of the thing man.

You're being results oriented.

But about the wrong results.

The river is a cooler. If you want to worry about results, you should be more concerned about calling the turn as a likely 20:1 dog (in this exact case, you had no outs). You should worry about if you should fold flop or turn. You learn nothing from thinking about the river.

Meh on the 3-bet preflop. I don't hate it, but flatting isn't that bad here either.

After we've 3-bet, I'd rather just raise the flop immediately, make it $75. I really only expect Q's to continue, but that's OK since most of the other hands that we're folding out aren't going to pay us off on later streets anyway. Only a Q is re-raising the flop at $1/2, and we can eject now instead of digging a bigger hole as a huge dog.

I like the three bet pre but I would've made it bigger like 45ish!
Flop it's a call
Turn is tough. Now I'd put him on AQ KQ QJ. So I might fold depends on your reads.
River is a ship. That's the card you were waiting for! Is he calling your 3 bet with Q8 or Q2? Probably not. Q10? Maybe then it's a cooler.

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If you are folding river 95% time when you "dont hit a 10" as you stated.... you shouldn't be calling turn....

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It's hard to really express strongly enough how absurd it would be to not raise here, and it makes me seriously question you're thought process. You need to be able to shake this off easily.

I like to flat pre here but obviously you had a read and was able to get into a 3bet pot in position with a dominating hand which is obviously +++ev.

Flop is obviously is a bit tricky considering most low stakes players bet small for value/induce bluff purposes. Hardly ever see them bet small as a bluff. But id peel turn considering he could just be donking flop putting you on AK hoping you fold.

Turn is dependent on whether you've seen him double barrel bluff before. If he's likely to take a line where he bluffs flop/turn /river thenyou can call turn and safe river getting two more streets out of him.

River is an obvious shove here. You're only losing to QQ here as id almost never have Q10 in his range.

But as said previously the turn is where the biggest decision was made.

The reason I posted this was the other prop I worked with said that the right play was to just call. I disagreed with him and said that this is ALWAYS a shove on the river. As i thought about it more i was wondering if maybe he was right but i really think he is wrong especially saying that i should be doing it because im a prop.... thats just ridiculous i should be trying to make the best decisions wether im a prop or not.He thinks that as a prop I should be taking the lowest variance decision and I told him that's absurd and that on the river here against this type of player with the action I've seen previously from him and given the action in the hand I'm always shoving here 100% of the time.

Thanks for the posts everyone. I appreciate the input, I'm always trying to work on my game and getting input always helps.

lol @ just calling river. Sorry you got coolered.

If you ever just call this river, then please stop playing poker.
For your own good.
This is NEVER just a call.

It's really unfortunate that he had just about the only possible hand that beats you, but if somehow you get to the river (which you really shouldn't, you should fold the turn def and maybe the flop) then you have to stick your stack in every single time.

Period.

Pre is not good.

Lol at river.

OP, if 1/2 is available in your area, play that.

BBV is...

C=====that way

I have no problem with pf. Normally a 3b in this spot is bad, since TT does okay against a typical EP raising range and badly against the range he continues with etc etc., but obv you can 3b TT for value against an opponent who's raise/calling super light.

Fold turn unless he multi-street bluffs frequently. As played, shove river, and enjoy the theoretical $ you make against most of his range.