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09-24-2014 , 06:50 PM
First post.

Live 2/4 full ring game. Pretty soft game where the standard is to generally limp call entire range outside of premiums.

I have built stack up to about $1000 playing pretty TAG. Only one decent pot where I flopped set and turned full house. Haven't show down too many hands but have always had the goods when I have. Mid 20's and have come from work so in a suit minus the tie. Highly doubt main villain in this hand would pay any attention to those details and has just sat down and bought in for the max ($400). Have played a few times with villain but again doubt he would remember and no significant hand history between us. No real reads but definitely not a thinking player and is pretty loose pre flop. I have seen him get in 3/4 of his stack on the flop and fold to a shove. Pretty much clicking buttons. He is around 30 and pretty scruffy looking. Took down couple pots without showing and stack is now around $500.

3 limpers and I have QJ off suit in the CO and limp. Villain limps on the button and can have literally any 2 cards here outside of premiums. SB completes and BB checks it. Head to the flop 6 handed.

Flop ($24)
K 10 9 rainbow.

UTG (playing about $200) leads out for $20. I notice villain grabbing raising chips before anyone else even acts and action folds to me and I quickly flat once it does. Villain makes is $100 total and UTG throws his hands up in the air and folds (showed half the table his hand which was AA). Villain has around $400 behind and i think he has 1 pair plus gut shot type hand. Possibly 2 pair. Could have complete air but i think unlikely and almost definitely doesn't have a set.

What's the best play to get it in here?
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09-24-2014 , 07:54 PM
i would slowplay just if villian is capable of laying down 2 pair or you really have a reason to believe he is light.

but: dodge a Q or J, just 6 bad cards in the deck, slowplaying cant be that bad.

if the board pairs and villian still shows aggression you might be beat, hard to tell. propably fold if the king pairs and he bets again.
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09-24-2014 , 09:01 PM
I think he has 2 pair or some type of king jack hand. My thought is that if I raise here looks so strong and even though history is limited I think he would likely fold his pair + guy shot type hand, obviously fold any bluff and get in any 2 pair.

I think his range here is slightly more likely to be 2 pair but don't want to fold out his other possible hands. If I flat I think any blank turn will get a big bet by him if he is holding pair + gut shot or 2pair which will price him in to call a shove.

I hate it but with stack sizes thoughts on basically clicking it back and making it around $200?
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09-24-2014 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jth467
I think he has 2 pair or some type of king jack hand. My thought is that if I raise here looks so strong and even though history is limited I think he would likely fold his pair + guy shot type hand, obviously fold any bluff and get in any 2 pair.

I think his range here is slightly more likely to be 2 pair but don't want to fold out his other possible hands. If I flat I think any blank turn will get a big bet by him if he is holding pair + gut shot or 2pair which will price him in to call a shove.

I hate it but with stack sizes thoughts on basically clicking it back and making it around $200?
i dont think KJ is raising here ever. he either has a bad draw like Q4 or 87 maybe J9 or he has 2 pair or QJ.

i personally think that you shouldnt raise bottom 2 in villians shoes, that leaves Kings up and the straight and bluffs.

i think slowplaying is the way to go as he is repping so little and is likely to have a lot of bluffs.

But: if villian is just an out of line monkey click it back by all means. if he is a good LAG slowplay.

Last edited by LongTimeNoSee; 09-24-2014 at 09:19 PM.
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09-24-2014 , 09:28 PM
Definitely agree any thinking player is never raising KJ here but villain is definitely not a thinking player. Can't imagine him assigning too many ranges to other players and will assign bet size to strength - ie "he bet big so must be the nuts".

I think KJ, 10J etc is definitely in his range with this line and if I repop it might wake him up but if I just flat call i think he checks these hands behind on a blank turn and them very hard to get his whole stack.
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09-24-2014 , 09:32 PM
Raise to $215.
Shove the turn.
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09-24-2014 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jth467
Definitely agree any thinking player is never raising KJ here but villain is definitely not a thinking player. Can't imagine him assigning too many ranges to other players and will assign bet size to strength - ie "he bet big so must be the nuts".

I think KJ, 10J etc is definitely in his range with this line and if I repop it might wake him up but if I just flat call i think he checks these hands behind on a blank turn and them very hard to get his whole stack.
well then you got the answer. click it back.
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09-24-2014 , 09:39 PM
After review I think it was a mistake but I ended up flatting the $100.

Turn repeated the 10.

Thought from here?
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09-24-2014 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jth467
After review I think it was a mistake but I ended up flatting the $100.

Turn repeated the 10.

Thought from here?
check and hope he bets. if he bets anything go allin. he might make a dumb call.

edit: leading out could be a play as well, but that needs him to call anything. yeah ok, bet 100$. its propably best.
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