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Old 09-16-2014, 10:00 PM   #1
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2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

2/4 11-handed; lots of limping and calling pre, less action post-flop.

V1 (~800) is a mid 20s male and the toughest opponent at the table. He is a TAGgy reg who also plays higher limits if available. Has widened up his preflop range a bit due to table dynamics. Can be sticky post flop. Likes to c/r and balances his range with value raises and semi-bluffs.

V2 (~200) is a pretty weak and easy to read unknown player. His bet sizing gives a lot away, and he seems to be a little scared money.

Hero (~450) is a young male reg. V1 has seen me grind lower limits quite a bit and probably knows I'm not optimally rolled to play 2/4. Should perceive me as a rather nitty TAG.



Onto the hand... Since it turned out to be a pretty complex hand, I'll put every street into a seperate spoiler. I'd love to hear each of your moves on every single street, as well as plans for future streets

two limpers, V2 (MP) raises to 14, HJ calls, Hero (BTN) calls with AJ, V1 (BB) calls, limpers fold

Standard raise at this table after two limpers would be 20-24ish (even from V2), so his raise seems kinda weak

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Old 09-16-2014, 10:12 PM   #2
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

3bet pre for value. The small sizing looks weak after 2 limpers. You hit the flop hard and playing 120bb. Get it in by the turn.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:19 AM   #3
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

I think pre flop is fine. Some tables I'm 3b here and some I'm flatting. I would probably raise this flop because of the bet size and the fact that we didn't raise pre flop. if we had 3b pre then I think calling this flop bet would be standard. I also agree with wewa in that we need to get it in ott.
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Old 09-18-2014, 07:15 PM   #4
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

Results: I figured the 10 on the river didn't improve his range too drastically, so I called. V1 shoves pretty much any river here, plus it is a good bluff card for him. He ended up showing down KQ. I feel fine with the river call, probably should have played earlier streets more aggressively though
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:35 PM   #5
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

I figured there was a good chance villain had that when he check/raises turn and most of the posters could probably guess it also. Consider it a lesson in why slow playing two pair is almost always bad. This board is particularly bad because there are so many different high straight draws villains can be on. KQ/KT/QT/Q8/T8 means any card 7+ may be bad for you but the potential for villain to be on a worse two pair makes it hard to get away from your hand.

As for the hand overall, preflop depends on villain. If V2 is tight I may just fold AJo, mostly I call from the button and I might raise. It depends if V2's small raise means a weak hand trying to see a cheap flop or a big hand trying to get some action. On the flop, I like check/raise here if I expect V2 to c-bet almost anything, otherwise I prefer a lead here because I there is a good chance one of these two is drawing to beat hero or hit the board.

The turn check/raise isn't happy but given villain description I probably call also. I can fold on this river. Considering the number of ways hero could have made a boat on river, it is actually a bad card for bluffing.
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:43 PM   #6
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

I think the river is actually the easiest decision here, fold. Idk about the player pool you play in, but there are literally zero players that I play with with the balls to run a bluff with air here. What bluffs can he possibly show up here with? Even hands like QT and KT got there.

As QuadJ said, pre could go all three ways. Against a tight player, I like folding the best. Although I'de be lying to myself if I said that I never call in this spot.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:17 PM   #7
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

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I think the river is actually the easiest decision here, fold. Idk about the player pool you play in, but there are literally zero players that I play with with the balls to run a bluff with air here.
+1 to the bold words.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:51 PM   #8
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

3bet pre to $55, be prepared to potentiall stack off pre flop to V2.

Raise the flop to $90.

As played, I'd call the turn as there are too many worse twp pair combos in his range.

Fold the river. Many two pairs got ahead of you, and TX draws turned into trips. Cheap price on the flop also allows gutters to peel profitably.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:57 PM   #9
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

grunching

raise the flop please
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:18 PM   #10
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Re: 2/4 AJ - slowplay top two?

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I think the river is actually the easiest decision here, fold. Idk about the player pool you play in, but there are literally zero players that I play with with the balls to run a bluff with air here. What bluffs can he possibly show up here with? Even hands like QT and KT got there.
If you're calling here, you're usually trying to catch someone overplaying AK/AQ, not trying to catch a bluff.
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