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2/3 - Second pair w/ flush draw line check OOP 2/3 - Second pair w/ flush draw line check OOP

09-09-2017 , 11:48 PM
Villain: Not a reg, not necessarily bad either. Bets his value hands strongly, sometimes overvalues them. Haven't seen him bluffing yet. First time playing with him, so not that many specific reads.

Villains range: Calls wide, 3bets premium pairs. Not sure how he plays AK pre against me (3bet or flat?). Imo he flats JJ, AQ and lower.


Hero is UTG+2 with KQ, 440$ eff. Villain covers.

Hero opens to $20, Villain in CO calls. Others fold.


Flop (45$): AK9

Hero checks, Villain bets $40, Hero calls.

Turn (125$): 8

Hero checks, Villan bets 75$, Hero calls.

River (275$): A

Hero checks, Villain bets 75$, Hero?


Various questions on this hand:

1) Is the river a call given the price, even though he three barreled and we block bluffing hands?

2) Would you cbet flop since we have so much equity to get money in the pot?

3) Would you check raise anywhere to get him off an ace? I debated x/jamming the turn, but I would have to jam roughly 380$ over his 75$ bet, which seemed a bit excessive.
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09-10-2017 , 12:10 AM
I think villain has so many aces here. If you think he would flat AQ then he has that and AJ and AT and probably tons of suited aces. As played it looks kind of like you have a flush draw. Additionally KQdd seems like the absolute worst king to call with because like you said you block so many bluffs. The only bluff I can think of is JTdd. Idk. Seems like the river bet is super valuey unless you think he can bluff small.

I'm honestly not sure about cbetting flop. Your right we have tons of equity and we can easily 3bet or call a x/r. I like checking because it's great to have a hand this strong in a check call range and it has good showdown value. For this reason I also don't think x/r on any street is ideal.

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09-10-2017 , 12:22 AM
Cannot ck flop.
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09-11-2017 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by maxsawyer12

I'm honestly not sure about cbetting flop. Your right we have tons of equity and we can easily 3bet or call a x/r. I like checking because it's great to have a hand this strong in a check call range and it has good showdown value. For this reason I also don't think x/r on any street is ideal.
This is exactly how I approached it. I also think it's such a great checking hand, probably the best(?). But on the river I couldn't help but feeling that I didn't do enough with the hand, and was sad to have to fold (I guess fold was the right play..?).
I also can't really see what I get value from when barreling this hand.

Not sure if a bet/check/check strategy (if unimproved) would make sense, just to allow us to keep piling in if we improve on the turn and to keep initiative on our side. It's also a very nice 3bet hand if we should get raised on the flop, since we block AK and villain couldn't be that happy getting it in with K9/A9, since we have more sets/two pair combos. And if we get called, we still have tons of equity and dominate other combo draws like JTdd.
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09-11-2017 , 02:01 AM
grunch

fold >> raise > call

At live 2/3 this is a moderately strong Ace so so so often. I think I fold even with the price. I have been trying to save a few of these obvious 75-100 bets on hands I know I am beat on more often a session even if I can do some fancy analysis to talk myself into a call.

raise is probably better than a call to push him off mid aces. But most Villains have a really really hard time folding trip aces when the draws brick off. So even if a CRAI would be a logical play to get him to fold like A10 I don't think standard villain will often enough to justify the move.

If some other draw hit or the board was scarier maybe.
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09-11-2017 , 12:22 PM
Please bet the flop. Or check/raise would be better than check/call.

River is probably a fold, but I don't hate a call. I doubt raising is folding better -- people just can't fold trip As.
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09-11-2017 , 06:26 PM
I'm also leading this flop. V isn't folding an A, but he can have a buncha weaker hands that aren't ever calling, but still have outs to beat us. I dislike giving free cards to portions of ranges that are only putting money in the pot when we're beat. There are even some hands we can get value from.

If he does call the flop, I'm definitely considering another barrel OTT. There really aren't any scare cards, so a brick like 8c is fine.

If we check the flop and V bets, he likely has an A. I think we can plan either to make a hand or to take it away (with making a hand a backup plan). I like playing to take it away. When V bets, I think it would be interesting to x/r to $100, planning to lead $120 OTT, leaving $200 that's "obviously" going in on the river. That last $200 provides some leverage for our turn bluff along with some IO if we do bink. I'd like this plan even more if we had another $50+ to make our bets a bit larger. I think we're right on the low end of enough to take the line.

AP, I think river fold is trivial.
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