BTN: Main villain @~$460. Recall playing with him ages ago. Seemed like an "action player" with some competence when first sat down. Won some big pots at first. In one showdown, he raised with AT in LP and played TP aggressively. Shorty after that, I raised AK to $16 in MP. He calls in LP and we go HU. Flop QTblank . I c-bet $20 and he calls after some thinking. Turn comes a blank so I decide to double-barrel for $35 and he calls again. (Maybe should have gotten some more reads before an OOP 2x barrel...) The river comes an A so I check (didn't think he'd call w/ worse) and he checks pocket 8's. Since that hand, he's spent about an hour playing LAGgy. Nothing too out of line, but taking stabs where he shouldn't have been.

MP: Side villain ~$450. Also one I hadn't seen in ages. Middle aged Persian dude. Raises decent starters pre, but loves limping and calling bets with a much wider range. Gets sticky post flop. To his credit, he seems adept at reading people and their emotional state & behaviors, but when it comes to ranges, he's more of the type to put a person on a singular hand.

BB: Hero, covers villains and SB.

MP open limps, BTN calls, SB completes, Hero checks Q9

Flop $6 after rake

JT6

check, Hero bets $15, MP calls, BTN calls, fold.

This might seem like an overbet, but quite standard in these games. There's almost an unwritten rule in these grossly raked limped pots that it's more worth it to 'play for something.' If anything, I'm wondering if I could have raised more. Would like input on trying to go for a c/r here as well.

Turn: $51

JT28

Hero bets $25, MP calls, BTN raises $125, Hero 3bets $275, MP folds, BTN calls.

River $625 after rake: blank, Hero shoves remaining $167 eff.

Would like my turn play evaluated. Any one raise more or just jam? Would calling be a better line? I opted not to b/c I didn't want the board to pair and I also didn't take MP into consideration during hand play. He didn't look happy with BTN's raise & figured he would fold no matter what. Would it be better to call and entice a 3rd contender to see the river? All input greatly appreciated. Thank you.

I cool with preflop.

I'm ok with flop, although some of our outs aren't nuttish and thus have some RIO (so building a hugenormous pot ASAP ain't absolutely necessary).

Unless we're expecting these guys to play back at a weak bet (which might be less likely thanks to being 3ways), I'd just bomb this turn for a PSB. Decent chance we're up against two pair / pair + draw / etc. that aren't ever folding, but won't necessarily raise, so let's put in the big bet ourselves.

I'd jam after the raise. Button has already put in 1/3rd of his stack so it's unlikely he's going to fold, lets get this money now before a crapload of action killing cards come on the river (flush card / four-to-a-straight, even paired board, could all kill action). I'm not concerned in the least at attempting to get MP to overcall, just go for Button's stack instead.

GcluelessNLnoobG

A couple thoughts:

You can bet more the first time on the turn

I don't think a jam is terrible here after the raise to 125 by V

I think the sizing is far too small on the turn. You hit the nuts and it's fairly well disguised. The most villains will give you credit for is Jx or a BB special two pair. You need to bet more to setup a larger river value bet. Luckily, villain raised you and you can get more $$ in the pot. Bet $50 on the turn and 3bet shove.

As played, 3bet jam. It's really not much more than a pot-sized reraise. Villain raise-folds almost never. I bet he slowplayed 66 (or 22?) on the flop.

Overall, well played and the idea is right. Just make a larger initial bet.

35 on the turn.
Cram it in after he raises to $125 no matter what turn sizing we use.

Just because everyone else overbets the flop, that doesnt mean you have to / or should. It might seem fine this time because your draw is so strong but I sure wouldnt be in the habit of betting $15 into a $6 pot every time you want to bet the flop and if you cant do it with KJ here you shouldnt be doing it with Qh9h either. What are you going to do with KJ on this same turn after you over bet the flop?

Having said that, I also dont see why you would overbet the flop with a big draw and then slow down when you actually hit the draw.

Lead the turn for more, and then 3-bet jam. Button's most likely holding is 97. I can't imagine anyone slow playing any value hand on the flop.

I also agree with MikeStarr. Don't bet $15 into a $6 pot. Just bet $5 or $6.

If our hand/draw was more nuttish on the flop, then I absolutely love the overbet since people call $15 - $20 on the flop cuz that's what they do on the flop regardless of whether the pot is $6 or $20. The only problem I have with it this time is regarding "not going broke in a limped pot" and our hand does have some RIO on the non-nut flush outs, so I'd lean towards not necessarily moving towards stacks as quickly as possible.

GcluelessflopbettingnoobG

Only if you're just as certain that he will call $317 more, as you are that he'll call $150 more, correct?

Somewhat. It's also that you are freerolling the flush draw against other straights like yours