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2/3 NL: AKo facing 3b from solid player 2/3 NL: AKo facing 3b from solid player

11-16-2017 , 01:49 PM
Weeknight 9pm. There were 3 or 4 guys at the table who were in town for a conference. They were all drinking and generally having a good time. There was one in particular that I definitely wanted to play hands against...I saw him limp/call pre and then c/c 3 streets with JT on an AJxxx board. I also saw him check pre from the BB and c/c 3 streets with AK on a Kxxxx board. Unfortunately he is not the V in this hand.

H is 30yo WG, been at the table a few hours playing fairly tight and not winning any significant hands. $300 stack.

V is early 20s WG wearing sunglasses and a hoodie. Seems like a reg. He's been chatting up the guys from the conference and has run his stack up to $1300 in about 3 hours. I should have been paying more attention to the hands that he won, but only one comes to mind. MP opened to $12, V called on the BTN, both blinds called. Flop came KhQc9c. Blinds check, MP cbet $20, V called. Turn 5c. MP led $25, V made it $60. MP called. River was a blank and went check, check. V won with 6s6d.

OTTH

UTG limps
UTG+1 limps
H makes it $18 with AK
Folds to V in SB who 3b to $52. Limpers fold
H calls.

I opened to $18 in a similar situation a few orbits earlier and everyone folded. I hadn't been 3b in the 3 hours I'd been at the table and I don't recall having seen V 3b anyone either. I considered flatting, raising small to ~$110 to set up PSB shove OTF, or 4b shoving.

Flop ($107): QT9
V cbet $50.
H?
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11-16-2017 , 02:14 PM
What's your position? I honestly just 4bet pre here. I don't mind the flat too much, but I don't do it.

As played, I just fold. What do you hope to hit? You might have four outs, could have three. Heck, An A or K comes and what do you do?
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11-16-2017 , 02:17 PM
villains line with 66 is so bad that he really can't be a good reg. That being said I think I just fold the flop as played. There are maximum 5 turn cards that are comfortable for us to continue on and that flop smashes his 3b range.
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11-16-2017 , 02:32 PM
4! pre.
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11-16-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by flopshove
Weeknight 9pm. There were 3 or 4 guys at the table who were in town for a conference. They were all drinking and generally having a good time. There was one in particular that I definitely wanted to play hands against...I saw him limp/call pre and then c/c 3 streets with JT on an AJxxx board. I also saw him check pre from the BB and c/c 3 streets with AK on a Kxxxx board. Unfortunately he is not the V in this hand.
that's unfortunate

Quote:
Originally Posted by flopshove
Flop ($107): QT9
V cbet $50.
H?
fold it
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11-16-2017 , 03:18 PM
Fold flop. You whiffed entirely and aces and kings may be dirty or you can be drawing nearly dead already. The only turn cards you really want to see are non-diamond jacks. Villain can easily show you a bluff on this board but there are just too few run outs you want to see.
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11-16-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
4! pre.
I agree with this. His 3! looks like a squeeze to me.

AP flop is an easy fold for me.
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11-17-2017 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
What's your position?
I was UTG+2. Sorry if that was unclear.

Last edited by flopshove; 11-17-2017 at 02:57 AM. Reason: typo
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11-17-2017 , 02:56 AM
As a couple have said, I think 4! pre would have been the right play. Are there any thoughts on sizing?
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11-17-2017 , 03:10 AM
1) Not feeling good about your reads, Vs play in the 66 hand was completely clownish. Called flop on monotone board w an underpaid and weak 1 card flush draw, and then hits his draw and raises...what...for value? And... He hasnt 3 bet in 3 hours?

Im guessing he is...fine...probably knows what a cbet is and plays enough to not totally suck, but not solid at all.

2) DO NOT 4 bet AKo pre from UTG+1 with a tight image into a dude who hasnt 3 bet in 3 hours. Whats the plan here, are we bluff 4 betting with blockers to get him to fold QQ? I dont think I can fold pre here, but its not a very happy call.

3) all of 99+ hit that board, as did AQ-A9, all youre folding is AK and low SCs with a raise, you shouldnt call with overs and a SD, this is a snap fold, board looks not terrible at first glance cuz of the SD, but its bad.
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11-17-2017 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flopshove
As a couple have said, I think 4! pre would have been the right play. Are there any thoughts on sizing?
~$150.

If called, which shouldn't happen but who knows, then shove all flops.
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11-18-2017 , 08:40 AM
I would fold even though I doubt he has much of anything on the flop. His continuation bet there was pretty weak.
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