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2/3.  KK vs the dreaded min-raise 2/3.  KK vs the dreaded min-raise

01-22-2017 , 02:21 PM
Villain is a skinny guy with spiked gray hair, really large purple butterfly sunglasses and headphones around his neck. When he dropped to $280 from his initial $300 bi, he whipped out another hundo to top off to $300 and announced he likes to be topped off always. He told another player after making a marginal call in a small pot that he should have bet earlier "when [he] had fold equity." Has been playing TAG-ish so far. Hand between him & I earlier: I open JJ in EP and he calls. Flop comes A high, then low cards. Checked through. I fired out 1/2 pot on a blank turn, he called. We both check blank river and he shows A7o.

Hero: been playing pretty nitty, but V has seen me try to steal a bunch of limpers in a straddled pot with K3s OTB w/ a raise of $40. I've also shown down KK to win pot after pot controlling on an A high board vs 2 people. I also make an EP raise, then overbet flop vs 2 shortstacks w/ AK on 783 board. I got a shorty AI but never connected & mucked.

~$300 eff.

V limps in EP, BTN calls, SB folds, Hero makes it $15 in BB w/ KK, V and BTN call.

Flop $41

J82 rainbow.

I c-bet $20. Could have gone larger, but outside T9, this is a pretty uncoordinated flop & I wanted to extract the most from lower pairs. V calls, BTN folds.

Turn $81

6 rainbow

H bets $40, V raises $80, H calls

River $240

3

H checks, V bets $80

Super cheap turn and river for us so I don't feel good folding, but this really seems like set/2p extracting value, no? Advice on all streets appreciated.
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01-22-2017 , 02:35 PM
Too small of an open vs V and being OOP with multiple limpers.

Exploit his tendency to call too wide.

If you're sizing small to extract mos from smaller pairs, why not check turn once V from UTG calls. Is his range not mostly small PP-med PPs? Meaning, you're really praying he has Jx/T9, which T9 making the only sense and the bulk being PP. Turn is a check.

Value bet river after you check.

As played. Turn min-raises are pretty nutty, but vs this guy, I don't blame going call/call to this run out and sizing.
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01-22-2017 , 04:05 PM
More pre - $22 - $25 since OOP and sticky villains.

More on flop - $20 is a joke. You give odds for them to draw and your OOP and this flop is a dream.

Turn is fine too, but we really want to try and get stacks in on this run out if we bet more pre and flop. I'd go $60

River is a call. How you can you fold getting this price? WE have to be right like 15% of the time to make this call profitable and he has to bet river if he was bluffing turn which he easily could of.
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01-22-2017 , 04:22 PM
Turn is a check/call. There isn't a whole lot to fear on that board and villain doesn't have a ton of draws. You can afford to take a street off. Worse hands will have a hard time calling, knowing another bet on the river is coming. Getting raised really sucks.
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01-23-2017 , 12:57 PM
Preflop is tricky because a $15 raise (which is quite small at my table) will probably get called in two spots, and now we'll have an SPR ~6 pot where it will be trivial for our opponents (who are in position) to make us play for stacks having only gotten in 5% of them preflop. I might just make it $30 here, which is probably definitely on the big side, but at my table still capable of getting action, and will setup a trivial stackoff situation postflop on non A high boards; admittedly, it might just take down 2.5bb a decent amount of the time, but whatever, it's risk free.

Again, SPR is 6. Stacks can go in trivially postflop with 3 easy bets (having gotten in just 5% of stacks preflop). We just raised out of the blinds. Board is pretty dry. Do we want to play for stacks postflop? I don't, and would love a street to check thru while underrepping my hand. So I check the flop and would be pretty stoked if it checked thru (obviously I'm calling a bet).

As played, I probably check the turn. Again, stacks are easily in play; are we really getting payed off by worse by bet/bet/betting? I'd really love a street to check thru to get one more street of value. As played, I fold the turn. We raised out of the blinds, bet the flop 3ways, and bet the turn; gee, I wonder what we have? And yet this guy wants to play for stacks.

I don't get to the river.

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