Hawiaan Gardens 2/3 - effective stacks are 320, though villain has over 600. Villain is a fairly skilled regular that typically plays the bigger game. His very hot blond girlfriend (hooker?) is also playing at the table next to him. She's a fish as far as poker goes. They are both drinking and having a fun time.

Villain is on button. Hero is UTG with AJ

Hero raises to 12. 5 callers.

FLOP is K 9 5

Bb checks, Hero bets 30, all fold except villain on BTN who calls, BB folds.

TURN is K

Hero bets 35 (should this be more?) villain RAISES to 100.

Hero??

Why did you bet the turn?

6 ways to the flop I'm not even trying to c-bet this flop. You missed entirely and 6 ways to the flop somebody has a king or 9. On the turn you need to check and try to see if you can hit your flush cheap. You are not going to get a king to fold and your not deep enough to mess around in a bloated pot.

Your turn bet looks too much like a blocking bet with a weak hand or a draw. Villains raise may be a bluff but your drawing too thin to stick around, just fold.

Typo It was actually 3 callers, not 5., I meant 4 to the flop, reviewing my hand notes. So pot was 48.

Nevertheless, I agree I should just check this turn which actually better represents a K in this scenario.

TURN: hero bets 35, villain raises to 100, hero CALLS

River 2

Hero checks, villain bets 150, hero folds.

Don't cbet into 3+ players when you completely whiff the flop. Even more so oop. You won't get enough folds to make bluffing profitable. Check and hope for a free card.

I believe you bet $35 into a pot of about $110 on the turn. A 'skilled reg' will spot weakness a mile away and raise with his entire range. The bet looks like you didn't hit a K and hope to take it down for cheap (which is true). Villain's flop calling range is likely KQ-K9/T9+/QQ-99/55. You're about 20% against his range, so I'd just fold.

Check the turn next time. If V bets and you think its a bluff, you could c/r. You'll have much more FE because you could make that play with Kx. I don't really recommend it because most of his range will gii.

River is a check-fold. The pot would be much smaller if you hadn't bet the flop and turn.

Flop bet is pretty terrible. Turn bet is worse.

I would open limp this for many reasons. One, the table is obviously super loose and we just set ourselves up for incredibly bad situations with TP hands. Two, the best player at the table is on the Button; I'm not looking to bloat a big pot for him when he has position on me. Three, AJs plays perfectly fine in high SPR multiway pots; we're fine with going eleventeen ways multiway and just ~nutdrawmining, imo.

Cbetting a 6way flop with A high on a K high board OOP to the world with the best player at the table sitting on the Button is lighting money on fire, no?

As played, I might not mind a turn bet as it really does look like we are simply betting our big AK/KQ. Although if we are doing this I think we have to bet more ($35 into a $120 pot is kinda lol). And the other problem is that Villain is probably unlikely to be floating the flop when we bet into eleventeen players on the flop, which means he probably actually has a K (which he might fold) or better (which he is never folding).

As played, our bet was super weak looking so it's possible he's playing back at us, but I'm not convinced he calls the flop with nothing just to do that. We're getting 3.5:1 to chase our flush draw, but on a paired board. Meh.

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What does your turn bet sizing accomplish, I'm fine barreling here with equity when they it becomes less likely they have a K, but no one is folding to $35 here. The amount of players seeing the flop makes it way more likely he has a K here too, so we may not want to barrel as frequently as we would in a 2 or 3 way pot

Flop c-bet is atrocious by the way, X/F flop.

Not to pile on, but about the only thing you did right with this hand was raise preflop. As stated, flop bet is bad. Just check/fold when OOP with this many players. Turn bet and its sizing are both worse. If I've been watching you do this, I'm raising your turn bet just to make you fold. Calling the turn raise is pretty bad too. There's a good chance V has 55 or 99 and your flush draw is dead.

Okay, thanks for all comments - they were very helpful as THIS is the kind of situation I F***up.

quick results and further discussion in the spoiler below:



Just FWIW, my C bets USUALLY take down the pot, my image is USUALLY pretty tight (relative to LA lag games) but I do mix it up and raise suited connectors and other hands.

I dunno, maybe someone here that's happened to play with a long haired dude with a Marvin the Martian card protector might have an alternate view... LOL...

As for raising AJs in EP - I don't always raise this hand. It's a sometimes I do sometimes I don't hand. But as it happens I had not raised a hand in a couple orbits, and thought it was a good time to raise and continue.

ALSO - in my FLOP C bet, I at first thought I flopped a flush draw, and had already started grabbing chips before I realized that I didn't have a draw yet, so decided to follow through my motion.

On the TURN - I make most of my mistakes on the turn and river. I really hate how I played this turn, but more importantly:

I hate getting into situations where I am getting out played and bluffed out of a pot. At the same time, I don't feel that I am attacking weakness enough in the reverse of these spots.

And I'm almost never making pure air plays like this guy did.

I feel that this is the area of my game where I screw up the MOST. But rom the sounds of the posts above, I just need to slow down a bit more, and check fold a bit more here.

A NOTE: Lately I have been concerned that I have been taking too passive a line in some of these spots, so I HAVE been looking to play some hands more aggressively. Here, it sounds like I got it all wring.

Again thanks for the comments, and perhaps your further thoughts.

yeah. pot is 120 and you bet 35?

as played, fold.

If villain thinks he can float with near zero showdown equity against your projected range in this spot then you're probably either c-betting way too much or folding too much of your value range to aggression?

B/f turn 65
AP fold

I just said the exact same thing a minute ago in another post, but I believe it applies here as well: be very aware of who is on the Button before raising preflop (especially the more speculative type hands in EP). Building bloated pots OOP to good players who are skilled at stealing them from us postflop is not a good strategy, imo.

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