2/3 donkey Villan takes wierd line.
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 8
2/3 8 handed. Standard mostly loose passive game.
H: mawg, should be seen as tag or nit but, it's late and most of the table is drinking so probably who knows.
V1: passive fish
V2: mahg, plays a lot of hands 50%+, passive pre, very aggressive post. Not sure if he is really bluffing or just over values marginal hands.
Otth:
H opens to 12 in mp w 78s
V1 calls in co
V2 calls bb
Flop 5s6h10h
V2 donks out 20
H call
V1 folds
Turn 9h
V2 20 again
H call
River 10d
V2 20 again
H call
Did I miss a bunch of value here or make good call down on a scary board?
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,987
Stack sizes are important here and suits, I take it we have a straight, not a straight flush, but yeah, you need to throw in a raise for value. I'd start OTT. I'd flat to a more substantive sizing since the flush got there, but based on the $20 repeat, it really seems like he has Tx or maybe even 6x. I'd go ~$70 OTT and bet river if again if checked to there.
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 486
I don’t think we have much else to do.
Board is so danm scary.
Like the call down. You could maybe make a 2.5x raise OTR but we would have to fold vs a 3Bet and he could be bluffing.
Raising seens so much -EV on this spot.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,645
wtf is mahg
hard to say but i'd raise given his bet sizing implies by that point he's block betting Tx
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Raise the flop. Take every opportunity you can to punish people who lead into you as the raiser. Having a draw is plenty of reason to raise a donk bet.
As played, raise the turn.
As played raise the river (assuming decent stack depth).
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Grunch: Raise turn. I pretty much always raise same bets OTT, and this balances it nicely, plus this guy will likely overpay for with a draw and often with a medium strength made hand that is convinced you're semi-bluffing.
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I know it’s scary to raise at all points but I think we have a good reason to at all times. When people donk; they often have like Tx and are “seeing where they’re at”. Great counter: lie to them.
Turn is scary to raise as well. But he’s betting 1/4th pot. I expect to see a ten and a heart way more often than a flush here.
River, now I’m almost certain this dude has a ten. Put a small raise in to like 85.
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Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 8
Thanks for all the feedback. He showed pocket JJ lol. I like my flop call with sd and another player to act. I'm pretty sure a raise on the turn is the best ev play. I dont have a lot of bluffs in this spot but, not to concerned about balance vs this V.
