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/3 deep stack with top pair, deconstructing villain's range /3 deep stack with top pair, deconstructing villain's range

07-14-2014 , 12:35 PM
Was at a local 9 handed casino in LA
Playing $2/3

Maniac/fish in small blind with 30Bb
Villain (tight passive) in MP with 300bb
Hero in CO with 250Bb. Holding QdJd

Preflop action: folds around to villain who limps in CO
I make it $10.
Small blind maniac 3bets to 38$
Villain calls 38$
Hero calls 38$

Flop: Qh10h7h (pot approx 120$)
Maniac checks
Villain bets $40
Hero calls $40.
Maniac folds.

Turn:8s (pot 200$)
Villain bets $40
Hero re-raises $140

River: 3d (pot $480)
Villain checks
What should I do here as the right play? I elected to check down. What are the most likely hands in his range.

Please let me know if I played this wrong. I have trouble with monotoned boards. I usually fold without the flush draw but in this case I was in position and the flop bet relative to pot was cheap.

Thanks!
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07-14-2014 , 01:04 PM
What was the point of the $10 open? I guess a pot juicer plus it *might* narrow field with us with initiative in position? I guess with such deep stacks I don't hate it, but I think I would typically just raise to $20 in order to have a better chance at isoing (and it makes more money when we are successful with our flop cbet).

So maniac only has 30bbs? I'm not sure this is a call preflop then. Sure, the deepstack CO is in the hand, but he's described as tight/passive. How are we expecting to get in the required money postflop vs him? Isn't this closer to a 4bet preflop in order to try to iso the maniac with dead money? Although I'm not sure our story holds up due to the $10 open.

When a tight/passive villain takes the initiative on this board, I'm done with the hand, even thought the bet sizing is small (which may indicate a small hand, but even some hands he considers small, such as sets on this board, could be better than ours, or it could be the nuts not looking to scare anyone off).

As played, river is tricky, imo. We could just check behind and showdown (which will win against busted draws). But methinks there is also a decent chance he has something like TP + flush draw, which will have a hard time facing a big river bet.

Gnotsureaboutanystreet,tbhG
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07-14-2014 , 01:15 PM
Ill take a newbie stab at it. Depends on villian's 3-bet PF calling range, which I estimated as most likely at pocket pairs, suited connectors down to 89, Ax suited to A9, AKo-ATo, and the occasionally KQo, KJo, QJo - roughly 15% range with stronger hands less likely due to inclination to raise. Even the weakest hands require him to believe that you are calling as well to get proper odds, given the fact the of raiser has practically committed his stack by betting a third of it from the start.

After the flop, I think his range narrows down to AA-TT, Ax suited for the flush, AKo - ATo (w/Ah), and the hearts suited connectors for a small flush.

His small bets seem blockish, probably knocking the Ax flushes off his range. Of the likely hands, I think you're ahead about 60-70% of the time, but by small margins. When you are beat, you are crushed. I don't think you are getting any calls for value bets on the river and you probably won't force a fold where you are beat. As played, I'd check river.
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07-14-2014 , 02:24 PM
$18 pre or limp behind. Check river. Hand readin starts pre flop. He's a tight passive and he limp called a 3bet. His range to call pre is very tight, like 22-QQ, AQ+ and he might fold 22-88 a lot due to shortie. His line looks like AKhh, AxKh, AhKx, AQ, JJ, or a scared (but greatly discounted) flopped set. No reason to raise turn.
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