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09-07-2018 , 09:13 AM

iatnuy

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 19

Hero in EP with A

600 effective

Hero opens to 15. CO 3bets to 45. BB cold calls 45. Hero flats.

CO plays super tight preflop and covers, and BB is a loose passive fish.

Flop ($135) A

Hero leads for 100, CO raises to 275, BB folds, hero tank calls.

Turn ($685) 6

Hero checks, CO shoves for 225 effective.

Call or fold?

Cheers

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09-07-2018 , 09:28 AM

skiing7654

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 168

Call now because of odds but hating it and expecting to lose 50%+

Fold to the flop raise. Yes it’s tight as hell but you said yourself the other person plays super tight pre, so I can’t see what he three bets pre with, and raises flop with that you’re ahead of besides MAYBE AK and honestly with his flop line, I’d skew that towards AKs if it even existed. Otherwise it’s AA, QQ and AQ all the way and you’re crushed.

If you called it down and he showed worse than you, either you caught him on a “spazz” hand (possible) or you need to adjust your perception/description of villain.

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09-07-2018 , 09:38 AM

ImAllInNow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,856

I don't understand your flop donk-lead. Just check/call flop.

If your intention was to probe with the lead bet, then fold to the raise. He's telling you he has QQ or AQ here basically.

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09-07-2018 , 09:48 AM

iatnuy

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 19

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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow

I don't understand your flop donk-lead. Just check/call flop.

If your intention was to probe with the lead bet, then fold to the raise. He's telling you he has QQ or AQ here basically.

I think you're right check calling might be better.

My reason for leading was to get value from AK and not give a free card for KK and JJ to draw to a straight.

I made the fold on the turn but probably should've folded flop. Or call turn since i called flop and odds are too good.

I begged for him to show and he showed A

Pretty disappointed in how I played that hand

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09-07-2018 , 09:51 AM

Notam

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 396

OP says CO is tight. AA, QQ, and AQ make up a big part of this range. You’re likely beat.

I don’t like the donk bet OTF. Against the CO range this is a marginal made hand even if it is two pair. Check-call turn and check-fold river seems best here.

As played, I’d fold to CO’s flop raise.

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09-07-2018 , 10:00 AM

ImAllInNow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,856

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Originally Posted by iatnuy

I begged for him to show and he showed A

This feels like basically the bottom of his range on the flop and you're 40% to win on the flop vs. it. This shows how much the flop is a fold as played.

Even on the turn, you're only 59% to win against that exact hand. Against his range of AA/QQ/TT/AQ/AKss you're not doing very good.

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