Hero (300) is very LAG and is probably perceived as such.
Villain (covers) is loose passive -- limp calling lots, raising strong hands.

Action folds to button. Button limps 3. SB r12, hero looks down at AA and 3! 30. Button folds, SB takes some time and calls.

Flop (63): Q T 4 r. V leads 40. Hero calls.

Turn (143): 8x. V checks. Hero checks.

River (143): 2x. V checks. Hero?

Okay, so given the action, I know I'm clearly ahead, but what do you guys think a good bet size would be?

I'd make it a bit more pre and flop.

Turn check is terrible vs. this villain, especially given your stated image, just bet and then shove river.

As played I guess I bet-fold something like $120 and hope he reads it as a bluff.

Bet turn lol

@Werebeer V led the flop -- I didn't cbet.

As for betting the turn -- I feel like the 8 on the turn allows me to check or bet. My reason for checking makes it so my range is uncapped.

Ummmm this is not a reason to check if you are perceived as LAG particularly

This is why I'm asking what a good river bet is given the action and considering my image.

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Point is you are missing turn. When he leads flop and then checks turn he has a ton of 1 pair hands like KQ, QJs and some draws likes KJ. You need to extract value on turn and hopefully stacking TP hands while charging KJ type hands that won't put anymore in on river unless they get there.

This is not a spot to be concerned about widening your range. You are overthinking it big time.

And yeah bigger pre

This doesn't make any sense to me. If you had TT, QQ or somehow J9 here, why would you ever check back the turn. Checking the turn caps your range at AA probably.

Capped or uncapped, I bet $80 on the turn to set up a river shove.

As played, I guess bet $80-100 on the river targeting Qx.

Also agreed with others that I go slightly bigger pre, probably $35-40.

I agree pre I can make larger, 2.75x sounds about right.

@bwslim69 -- I understand that I want to be extracting value, but V donked the flop. Don't I want to make sure that he isn't holding QQ, TT, J9s? After he checks the river, I'm sure he's on some Qx and wants showdown value. As for value, how does 1.5x pot sound on the river for value?

EDIT: I'm not saying I did 1.5x pot, but looking back, how does that sound?

@MIB211 -- How does checking the turn cap me at AA? On the turn, if I check, my 3! range/call flop lead looks like (AA-QQ, TT , AKs-ATs, AKo-AJo, KQo-KJo, KQs-KTs).

Why would you ever check a set here closing the action on the turn? Betting turn makes it so much easier to play for stacks. I'd always bet a set here though I'd bet AA too.

You're right, I most likely would never check a set here, so that eliminates 6 combination of hands out of my range. There's still 90 combinations of hands he has to worry about.

My value hands: 6 AA, 6 KK, 12 AQ , 12 KQ
My bluff hands: 16 AK, 16 AJ, 16 KJ.
Hands I check back: 3 ATs, 3 KTs

How is my range capped at AA if i check back the turn?

Definitely more preflop. Like 36 or 40.

Like others, I'm b/f turn. Giving a free card here makes no sense. if he has you beat, you were going to pay off a river bet anyway, so let's get value from hands that will pay us.

Ap, I probably bet like 110 or 120.

This is 2/3 and you're playing vs a loose passive. Hes totally not thinking like you think he's thinking. He's looking at his hand and if he has top pair, he's paying at least two streets.

Fyp

checks turn

Bad read.

O YES. Didn't realize stacks were so short. Definitely getting it in on turn.

My bad, flop is fine.

Turn check is still terrible. "Making my range is uncapped" sounds good in a pokery kind of way, however when you say a villain is a passive 2/3 player and thinks you are a LAG, and you have his range crushed, your priority is to put money into the pot. Having an uncapped turn range is not a priority at all.

We must be talking past each other but isn't this the exact definition of being capped at AA when you check the turn? The best hand in the range above is AA.

Anyway, this is kind of unnecessary 100 BBs deep at 1/3. We should just be aiming to get AQ, KQ and KK to stack off here and betting turn helps do that.

Right, I'm misinformed. Thanks for clarifying.

@MIB211 so does that mean even if I have bluffs in my range (like this hand), my range is capped at AA? I'm trying to better understand capped/uncapped ranges.

When I think of a range that is capped, I think it means that you can't have better than a given hand on a board. The fact that you have bluffs in your range does not make it capped/uncapped, but instead having the ability to have the nuts makes you uncapped.

An easy example in a 1/2 game, assume $400 effective stacks. Folds to you on the button, and you raise to $7. Nitty old man big blind 3-bets to $20, and you call. Assume that nitty old man 3-bets here with just JJ+ (he's flatting with AK of course because it's not paired yet). Flop is 567r. Old man is capped at AA here. He never 3-bets with any hand that makes a set, two pair or straight on this board. You, on the other hand, are completely uncapped. You raised button and called a small-ish 3-bet with position and deep stacks, so you could have 89, 77, 66, 55, 76, 65, etc. So you could have the nuts while he really can't. This makes it a very good spot to put pressure on the other player with bluffs or semi-bluffs if you think he has a fold button such that he isn't willing to play for stacks with an overpair on this board.

Compare that to your hand. On the flop, you're uncapped because you could easily have QQ or even TT here. Once the turn comes, you probably don't have J9, so you're still capped at a set of queens. However, even if V can cap your range at top set here, he's not really able to do anything about it, because he can't bluff you off of QQQ $300 deep in a 3-bet pot by repping the only hand that beats you.

Basically, the time I think about capped ranges is when I'm a caller pre-flop, facing a PFR that has a fold button, with pretty deep stacks, on a flop that caps them at an overpair. I think that's a great opportunity to bluff/semi-bluff. I rarely worry if making a given play caps my range in the eyes of my opponents.

A good article on capped ranges: http://www.thinkingpoker.net/articles/capped-ranges/

I 3bet to $50 preflop. A passive guy just raised out of the blinds (he's strong), and we have a wonderful aggrotard image. Let's get in as many chips as possible as fast as possible (plus denying setmining odds while doing so). Heck, there's probably some argument for flat out shoving here (i.e. get the chips in before his JJ/etc. can fold a A/K/Q flop).

SPR is 4ish. I'm not in love with the flop due to two hands moving ahead (QQ/TT), but I still consider myself committed here (which is partly why I wish we raised more preflop to prevent setmining odds). Board is pretty dry, I also just flat so I don't get him to hero fold Qx/JJ/etc.

I'd probably go $80 on the turn. It's just slightly over a 1/2 PSB and it's less than $100 (if that matters), and it will create a $300 pot with $150 left for the river (which I don't think he'll be able to fold).

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3! is def too small. Even though it's blind vs blind i think it's good to have some bluffs preflop blind vs blind so i definitely want to size up a little to be more balanced and not have a big sizing tell. i would likely size all my 3! to $40 here.

i think check behind on turn is a big mistake. it def caps your range as you should be betting all sets here (assuming you flat the flop).

the bigger reason why it's a mistake imo is just too much value being missed. given you have a laggy image, people will call down lighter and so there's a wider range of hands to get value from. having the laggy image makes it possible for you to get 3 streets of full value with AA here.

as played i def bet ~psb on river

70 turn/ship river

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