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06-27-2018 , 05:37 PM
V1: Not much information
V2: Calling station, fish

Effective stacks: ~500

Hero (MP): JTcc, opens to $20.

V2 on button calls, V1 in SB calls.

Flop ($60): J84r

V1 checks, I bet $40, V2 calls, V1 calls.

Turn ($180): 9x

V1 leads out for $130, I call. V2 folds.

I'm not sure if I made the right call here. After the 9, it seems like V1 is really nutted, like he definitely hit a straight but now, I also have top pair and open ended straight draw.

Spoiler:

River ($440): Jx

V1 checks, I check.

V1 shows QT offsuit
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06-27-2018 , 06:20 PM
you have no reads at all on v1? with the action this way a donk lead for that amount is usually pretty nutted here. should have been a fold. his range is mostly straights, 2pair, and sets.

dont post spoilers till like page 2
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06-27-2018 , 06:23 PM
I'd fold.

Will be difficult to get a fair return on the $130 call on a 4-to-a-straight board should you bink. J may not be good. Looks like he has at least 2-pr.

Note: Didn't read the spoiler.
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06-27-2018 , 07:42 PM
Where was this hand played OP?
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06-27-2018 , 09:04 PM
Your flop bet is way too big given the board, hand strength and effective stacks.
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06-27-2018 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Your flop bet is way too big given the board, hand strength and effective stacks.
That may be a bit of an overstatement, but I agree in that I am definitely looking to bet smaller on this board, somewhere in the $20-$30 range, maybe closer to $30. I wouldn't mind them folding something like an Axs with a backdoor wheel/flush draw.

As played I'm snap folding this turn. Your implied odds suck with 1-card straight draws. I usually only call bets where I'm priced out if I think I can pick up some serious bluff equity on certain rivers, but readless against what smells like a nutted range I don' think that's a great plan.
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06-29-2018 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
Where was this hand played OP?
Oaks Card Club
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06-29-2018 , 03:00 AM
Didn"t read spoiler, but I would range him
QT, J9, JT, T9, 98, 99. Given this you need like 2.8 to 1 to call the turn and are only getting 2.3 so it's a fold. Also given the fact that if you hit your card, often you will be chopping or losing more money in the case he has QT or 99.

The problem is that you don't even know what a good card for you is on the river given villain's range.

Also bet smaller on flop is usually better unless villain's are very loose.
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06-29-2018 , 04:17 AM
Didn't read any comments or spoiler

OTF I'd check top pair weak kicker here with backdoor draws and look to bluff-catch/keep ranges wider or go for 2 streets if it's checked around. You didnt list suits otf but esp if there is a club I'm 100% checking this

OTT i'd insta muck vs the turn donk bet when a straight completes and with a player behind me.
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06-29-2018 , 04:25 AM
i like your sizing pre/post
imo there are enough 2pr combos to warrant the call ott, but there's no need to auto-call his river shove unimproved. one of those rare occasions that calling turn <> call river.
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06-29-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
imo there are enough 2pr combos to warrant the call ott
there are?
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