$2/3 blinds, $100-300 buy in

Hero ($230)
Usually top up but I only brought $300. Been at the table for about an hour and a half and have been pretty much card dead besides 88, 22 and these 44. No one seems to be paying too much attention.

Villain (~$215)
I've played with this villain before but don't have any real history with him. Younger white dude with large dre beats headphones. Plays TAG but I've seen him get out of line before, not this particular session though.
OTTH

UTG makes it $11 (older drunk guy who's been donating to players. Having fun), villain in MP calls, Russian passive whale in CO calls, hero in SB looks down at 44 and calls (usually this short I wouldn't call OOP but with two happy go lucky players I figured I'd set mine)

Flop (~$43)
47Q

Hero checks, UTG makes it $20, villain calls, whale folds (!?), hero makes it $85, UTG tanks then folds, villain ships all in...

In before lock. I prefer to lead flop. As played, snap call. Sorry you were oversetted with QQ.

Why is this gonna get locked?

I considered leading but with two people who like to bet and calling raises I thought I could squeeze more out with a raise

Never folding a set for less than 100bbs ever on this flop, or any flop for that matter. Villain is going to have a lot of flush/combo draws and Qx in his range here.

I like to check these boards heads up or against 2 players. With 4 players seeing the flop, I agree with leading here.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like a douche. For less than 100bb and the way it was played, I don't see how you can even consider folding here.

If V has 77 then it's just bad luck, but I'm never ever folding here. He could have naked flush draws, a flush draw with Q, could be open-ended, etc. You Check-raised to get it all in here, and you're getting your wish. Beat him into pot.

fist pump snap calling.

Agree with leading flop over checking, hate to give up a free card with 4 people behind. The board is a little disconnected so we have to give V slightly more credit for 77 or QQ. Not to say that he doesn't have some combo draws in his range, but he basically never has Q7 here so his range is a little bit tighter. With a run out of say QK4 or even Q104 we can add in a few 2 pair combinations to his range. If he's playing overpairs this way then it doesn't really change much, though overpairs are probably 3 betting pre.

As short as we are and with how much we've committed it's a pretty standard call. If we were deeper and felt very strongly about our read on V I can maybe find a fold a small part of the time.

We're ahead 65:35 against a range of AQ, QQ, 77, AhKh, 5h6h.

lead 30.

As played .... 100% consensus call

Dislike leading for many reasons.

^lol please tell the "many reasons"?

Leading a pot size bet here is great because you have a whale and a donator involved in the hand on a semi coordinated board.

As played the only hand I'm worried about is 77. The villain's flop call-all in line looks like 77 or any huge draw. QQ+ is unlikely as he did not 3bet pre. Way more combos of draws then 77. Easy call.

Beats - call. No Beats - fold.

With the pre-flop raiser directly to your left you can get a bet from him and then calls from the entire table before you check-raise. Considering your relative position versus the pre-flop raiser I see absolutely no reason to lead this flop.

Like everyone else I'm not folding a set this shallow.

snap call fist pump jiggle. If he has 77 or QQ you just say oh wow! what a cooler and move on!

Just to entertain you, I believe we should have a check/call and a check/raise range in spots like these.

If we lead all our strong hands here, people can play "perfectly" against us. Also, the fact that we have 4 people behind us and we haven't shown any aggression so far, it's likely for someone to stab at this flop (whether they have a Q or not, or they can have hearts), and we can c/r huge for them to get them to pay a bad price on their draw.

What is better, A guy betting 25 and getting 2 calls and we c/r huge OR we bet 25-30 and get 2-3 calls?

So if the flop checks thru, will that altar your decision based on the results?

No. You can't alter a decision based on 1 hand size sample. In a situation like this, where you are first to act and the guy who has shown aggression preflop, and there are people to act after him, it's usually a better decision to check the flop in spots like these (not just with sets, but with huge draws as well).

Trying to play unexploitably in a 2/3 game is a big mistake. Also, while we're playing hypothetical game, you might as well add a third option to the mix: you lead for 25, villain makes it 60, one call, and then you raise.

I don't hate a check raise here, but we do have significant risk if this flop checks through as there are straight and flush draws and we are 4-handed.

I also like checking and hoping the EP raiser bets.

Never folding. This is even more true when the top card is not the flush draw suit. If villain has a higher set, the correct play is to lose all your money.

Precisely dUCY

While you are quite mistake in that playing unexploitable in low limits is a mistake, your hypothetical situational hand is very rare. In your situation, someone would have to have better than Qx to raise (somewhat not that rare) and either Qx (unlikely someone calls a raise with it these days), or a decent flush draw (somewhat rare).

Are there situations where it does get check through and a terrible card on the turn comes (like 5)? Sure. But if we lead for 2/3rd pot and get 2 calls and that turn card comes, it's not the greatest of spots for our hand either.

Its 2/3 bro no one is playing perfect against us.. you dont need to balance ****

Which beats. Earmuffs or earbuds? Color?

What is he listening to? Rap/hip hop fold. Everything else call