Villain #1($1000): visually intoxicated,tried to pick a fight with two of the friendlier players at the table,tried to buy in for blacks and purples (they don’t play) raised to $100 with no limpers his first hand and showed Kings when everyone folded,I just caught the end of him doubling through a young lady at the table with what looked to be a rivered gut shot,then apologized to her.
Villain #2 ($565)-guy villain #1 tried to pick a fight with,hates folding but definitely is aware of what’s going on,prone to call Antihero light,tends to run up big stacks .
Antihero-($950)- Mid 30’s white dude,people like to play back at me,has history with Villian #3,will need a eardrum transplant if Villian #1 keeps screaming into said ear.Plays 3-5 as main game only Villian #2 knows this.
Hand:
I post in the cutoff and look at 33,4 limpers to me I check my option and villain one makes it $36,all four limpers call and I come along pot is $216 before rake.
Flop is 310k.
Everyone checks to me and I have Villian #1 behind,does anyone like a lead knowing that there is a $300 cap bet per player and we are six ways on a super wet board?

Has V1 been betting on flops?
If there are six of you, I would prefer check raising all-in or whatever the maximum is. If V1 likes to play his gutshots, he probably won't go away too quickly

You have to lead with the board dynamics. If for some reason it checks through you're probably in a messy spot on the turn with 5 people in the hand with you. So many bad cards. Bet $120.

You're playing this hand against 5 people, not 1, even though the way you've worded this thread seems as much. Not even a drunk V will always barrel into 5 people with air. This could check through.

Yes, start building a pot now and hope V1 raises for you to squeeze out some others. I say lead $125-$140

I definitely bet here. Checking through would be terrible. $125 seems about right.

Villian #1 had been c-betting around 2/3 flops and I felt like he would bet all of his air and and all his perceived value.

2/3 isn't enough for me to check here and hope he does it again. I might not even check if he's cbet 100% of his flops. With 5 Vs in the hand it's just asking for trouble.

I suck at deepstack.

Probably not the best seat to be sitting in (looks like we are to the immediate right of the deep wildcard?).

I also call preflop. Already getting near our setmining odds and will really only have to make up one bet postflop to be profitable. Having said, and this is just where I am in my game, if anyone with half a clue looks to want to get stacks in postflop we could be in trouble.

I probably just donk as I don't think we can expect the wildcard to continue enough into the world and giving a free card on this board in this size pot sucks.

ETA: Oh wait, so on the turn we can like only bet $300 into like $800? Maybe check/raising to get more in on the flop is better (???) although still sucks if it checks thru.

ETA#2: Is anyone folding a draw on the flop for a PSB? I kinda doubt it, so I'd mash the flop myself.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Villain 1 and 2 are the only other deep stacks involved ,all other villains have around $200-$300,I’m more worried about getting value from either of said villains as all others will have odds to draw with an open ended plus (draws) and with the cap they will most likely not be folding.This game has a buy in of $100-$300 and plays strangely when deep post.

Great, so extract your value from the shorter stacks while you still can while they have two cards to go, rather than 1, instead of possibly allowing it to check through on the flop and they miss the turn and fold to you or V's bets.

Sorry, it just seems like you're trying to convince us to say you should check here and go for a check-raise so you can progress your story to a further decision point that you aren't sure about. I don't understand why you didn't just tell us what you did and get to the next decision point instead of trying so hard to convince us that checking here is better than betting.

So OK, you disagree with some of us, and you checked and feel that was the best choice. What happened next?

I'm guessing deep post with the betting cap makes it play more like a Limit game? In which case just bet with our equity and hold on for dear life?

GcluelessLimitnoobG

Oh I’m not trying to convince you guys of anything,I’m asking for honest opinions and the consensus seems to be lead any thoughts on sizing and G yes it plays like a limit game when deep which sucks for me.

Is this hand played at Talking Stick resort? Well, I would cbet about 3/4 pot here to deny equity for sure. I understand that you said villain cbets about 2/3 of the times, but it is even more likely that he might check back on this flop if he missed because it is 6-way pot. The texture is way too wet for me to risk a scare card on the turn. QJ, Kx, flush draws are not going to fold, so with 5 people.. I can expect someone to call.

If he's going to bet as high as 2/3 of the time this seems like a pretty clear check/raise with relative position. 2/3 is a REALLY high c-bet rate 6-ways. You don't exploit that by betting. The reward of getting in an extra bet on the flop as well as dead money from anyone who calls villain's c-bet is worth the risk of it checking through.

Yes yes it is a TS.

In hindsight I should have lead but I decided to check,probably Fancy Play Syndrome....but....Villian one bets cap,so $300...it folds to villian 2 and he shoves for $185 on top.

Leading flop seems terrible to me. You have a drunk IR behind you and then when he bets (which I'll definitely expect him to) you get to see what everybody else does before you have to act with your set. I'm check/raising all day.

Late to the show but I am squarely in the check camp on the flop. As played I'm not sure on remaining sizes but I probably just call and then stacks should be pretty shallow to bet reasonable amounts to get all in by the river


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Your plan worked, now raise.

You guys are concerning yourself with targeting 1 V here when there's 4 others in the pot. You're willing to concede what's already a $216 pot at the flop to go after 1 guy and take a chance this checks through. There are 21 really bad cards that can hit the turn when you're playing this hand with 6 people.

There's also some conflicting thoughts going on as far as the maximum bet pet player is concerned: if you check-raise V on the flop it's still only to $600. If he 3b you at that point, then he would have done that to a donk bet anyway so what are you losing here?

It blows my mind that people are willing to concede the main pot with a risky check expecting V to cbet all the time into 5 other people. Nothing in OP's assessment made it sound like this guy is terrible/reckless. Drunk people can still play decent poker.

Anyway, I agree: your plan worked. What's next?

Totally agree. Lots of people think they are going to stack multiple people by playing tricksy. IME, this rarely happens and in general you end up losing the pot.

I raised $300,villain 1 acted confused ,told me he had a straight (obviously impossible) and took quite awhile to put the rest of the money in.I’m not sure it was even it was even legal with the cap. 2 screamed #%^* I’m dead as soon as I raised. Board ran out 9 hearts,2 of clubs.Villian 2 showed Kspades 5 clubs and the intoxicated gentlemen showed 10-10 to scoop.I just wanted to see what everyone thought about how to proceed getting the money in 300 big blinds effective in a bloated preflop spot with the 100 big blind per person betting cap.in hindsight I realize that I was too focused on villian 1 too much and that I should have donk lead for 2/3 pot or more into the field.

Sick cooler. Am I the only one who prefers a raise preflop with 33 vs four limpers?

Are you sure he's really intoxicated?

He was definitely intoxicated,almost got thrown out multiple times,spilled his life story after(was going through some ****).I was sitting next to him.He also apologized to the guys he tried to pick a fight with.I also saw him play other hands both before and after this in a very counterintuitive matter.