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/ 300 BB deep, turned top two pair. / 300 BB deep, turned top two pair.

03-11-2017 , 04:09 PM
Villain 1 (sb): A mostly non spewy reg. Seems like a fairly straight forward player. ~300 BB stack.
Villain 2 (button): Pretty much a super nit. Girlfriend of V1. Stack around 75 BB.
Hero (UTG+3): Tight image, earlier in the evening stacked off villain1 when he flopped two pair vs my set. 300+ BB stack.

Preflop: Folds to hero who opens to $13 from UTG3 with AhJh. V1 calls. V2 calls.

Flop (pot $37): J89ss

V1 checks, Hero bets $20, V2 calls, V1 calls.

Turn (pot $101): Ac

V1 checks, Hero bets $50, V2 folds, V1 calls.

River (pot $201): Qd

V1 checks, hero ???

I am wondering if this is a bet fold river or just a check back. There a decent amount of weaker 2 pair hands might call, but KJ and missed spades are obviously folding. There are a lot of Ts in his range but I think he probably bets those hands on the river. Maybe bet $75 to target a hand like QJ?

Last edited by Lifestyles; 03-11-2017 at 04:38 PM.
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03-11-2017 , 04:31 PM
I'm assuming you messed up action and it is V1 with 300 bbs that is still in the hand by the river?

If it is V2, then I put her in for her last ~$80, because she may cry call since she has come this far with a worse 2-pair.

Against V1, I probably check back river. getting value against a straightforward villain on a 4-straight board with 2-pair is probably a little too optimistic, plus you end up value owning yourself too often when he check/calls a Tx hand on the river. If you knew he would call with all of his 2-pair combos, it's probably a bet, but I doubt that is the case.
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03-11-2017 , 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubey
I'm assuming you messed up action and it is V1 with 300 bbs that is still in the hand by the river?

If it is V2, then I put her in for her last ~$80, because she may cry call since she has come this far with a worse 2-pair.

Against V1, I probably check back river. getting value against a straightforward villain on a 4-straight board with 2-pair is probably a little too optimistic, plus you end up value owning yourself too often when he check/calls a Tx hand on the river. If you knew he would call with all of his 2-pair combos, it's probably a bet, but I doubt that is the case.
Yes, I messed up action. V1 with 300BB is the sb and is still in the hand on the river. OP is now edited. Thanks for the comment.
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03-11-2017 , 04:49 PM
As Dubey pointed out, will assume V is the deep straight forward reg with $900. I lean toward bet/fold here. I think we're targeting lower 2p as well as AXss that improved on turn along with us. I think 1/2 pot works great.
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03-11-2017 , 06:29 PM
Bet the flop and turn bigger with TPTK and two pair on a wet board. As played, I like a small bet/fold on the river. Maybe $75. As you point out, he has a lot of worse two pair that can call you, as well as a lot of AsXs that now has top pair and might make a bad call if your bet is small enough.
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03-12-2017 , 03:10 PM
Results:
Spoiler:
I ended up checking back and winning the pot. He flashed KJ before throwing his cards in the muck. Agree, that I should a bet a bit bigger on flop and turn. I think I lean towards a small value bet on river too, there's not much reason for him to check a straight there.
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03-13-2017 , 11:24 AM
I guess you know your table if a $13 raise sitting with $900 stacks manages to get this 3ways. I'd open limp this at my table.

I might bet slightly more on the flop but whatever. Concerning when both players call, especially the nit.

Again, I might be slightly more on the turn, but whatever. I doubt we're paying off a flush/straight draw that comes on so it's not horrible sizing.

The question on the river boils down to whether this guy is capable of playing back against a weak looking bet. If he's ABC straightforward, then I'd bet really small (maybe even a "same bet") just to get value from worse two pair hands knowing that I can safely fold to a raise. If he can possibly play back at a small bet, I might just check this behind.

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03-13-2017 , 04:23 PM
Check back. He gave you a free showdown in a spot where you have great SDV. What are you trying to get value out of? QJ? J9? AX, where X is a pair on the flop?
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