Hi everyone, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly but want to know what I could have done differently.

Hero UTG with AQo (~$400)
Raise to $15
UTG +1 calls (~$150)
UTG +2 calls (tilted and spewing chips ~$180)

+ 4 more callers

Also want to note that Hijack has me covered ~$450 and also calls.

Flop is 89qr

I didn't really think this through fully, but I saw the short stacker and I wanted to kind of isolate him.

So I went all in and as I was saying that I tried to take it back once I saw that hijack had me way covered, but luckily he wasn't involved in the pot.

Anyway, UTG+1 insta-calls, and UTG + 2 says "Oh since you didn't mean to say all in I am going to call you"

and it folds around.

I don't know if betting into so many players was bad, or I should have waited for the short stacker to make a move before I did. Either way short stacker shows JTo for the flopped straight and UTG + 2 makes two pair on turn and I am busto.

I also wanted to add that I was raising this size previously and getting 1-2 callers, but I think because the tilted guy was calling more often is why this flop went so multiway. But after this hand I knew I had to raise larger PF.

In a family pot, I'm likely just checking this flop, trying to get to a really cheap showdown. Our shove only guarantees we're called by better, & with so many players that'll happen at a frequency WAY, WAY higher than what's break even for the amount we scoop by shoving. I mean, you basically turned your hand into a bluff, risking way too much for so little in the process. This is spew & I trust you won't spew this bad in the future.

Also... if someone's leak is spewing like UTG+2, you need to check to them to allow them to spew.

Yes I've heard the same advice from another hand when you get so multiway with 1 pair. The only defense against this is to raise larger right?

Also So suppose I check and the same action happens. I am basically always calling right?

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Yeah your hand is nowhere near as good as it looks here, you are completely dead to some very commonly flatted hands (JT, 88, 99), Q8/Q9/89 are all possible, and there are a lot of hands which have really good equity against you (for instance hands like T9 have 9 outs twice, which without pulling out equilab is going to be something like 35% against you).

I'd probably check and see what develops, that enables me to get out without loss if there's a bet and raise. I think b/f like 50 is fine too, but jamming is suicide.

You should raise larger if there are often this many callers, yeah, but it's also not like having to check the flop is a disaster.

If you check and that action happens, it's a clear call but not fist pumping, you'll be beaten a surprising amount but not enough to justify folding.

I mean I guess you're always dead to sets when you have TPTK so that's probably not very relevant. JT is a big concern though, if dealt the hand these guys are basically a lock to have played it as a flat preflop, and there are a lot of combos of it, 16 of them as compared to 6 combos of 88 and 99 combined. So basically take the amount you're normally worried that someone has flopped a set 7 ways and multiply that by 4.

I did some quick maths and if all your opponents are flatting pre with the top 40% range from equilab, the chance one of them has JT, 88 or 99 is roughly 22%. So it's definitely something to be concerned about.

Wow that's a really interesting statistic. Never thought to use the program like that.

Also thanks a lot for your other analysis it is really helpful.

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Is there a function in equilab where you can input a % range and it outputs % chance of holding JT (or whatever you select)? Or you literally counted combos looking at the total range?

Yeah I just counted combos. Took a minute or two. Theres a checkbox in equilab to show combo count but it just shows it for each individual hand so its not super useful.

Ah. Man that would have been a nifty function lol.

iirc flopzilla had some functionality like what we're talking about

Yeah thats my #1 most wanted function in a poker calculator. #2 is telling me given the ranges for all players, what is the %chance each player is ahead right now. By which I mean who would have the best 5 card hand if the hand ended right there.

Interestingly, i want something that helps me think about what turn cards do what.

Like range vs. range, 20% of turn cards give villain 30% more equity.

Im not wording it right but plo has helped me think about it much more and i think its how tom dwan played his hands on high stakes poker. He took alot of peculiar checks but they make sense to me when i think about what different turns do to each players range.

Its really hard to think about in game beyond "no spade, no spade, no spade" lol

Flopzilla seems like it'll give you what you want, Av.