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2/2 Top set deep OOP against LAG , line check 2/2 Top set deep OOP against LAG , line check

02-13-2016 , 01:24 PM
Game: Late night 2/2 local card room. Generally LAGgy/fishy game with a lot of gamble. Really good mood around the table, basically everyone having a few beers and being social, no one pissed when they lose pots etc. 5handed as people recently busted.

H: UTG, 600$ Has been card dead for the most of the last hour or so, but very recently showed two loose opens that went to showdown, hero won both. 86s and 74s, so my image is probably very LAG right now.

V1: CO, 200$ Table mark. Fishy 50-60s white guy. Calls wide pre, and then plays very aggressively, both calling and raising, with loads of crap post. Gets it in with gutshots, calls big bets with backdoor straightdraw and one over etc. I stacked him for 100bb a few hands ago when I opened 74s (lol, dont need any comments on this, I know its bad) OTB and flopped 2p. He check raised all in on the turn with slowplayed KK.

V2. Button, 500$ Competent LAG. Mid 20s white guy, seems like a reg at the place who is used to play higher stakes. Same guy from this hand http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...at-do-1589045/, where I doubled through him with flush draw against pair + weaker flush draw.

Pre: Hero is dealt 99 UTG and opens to 8$, V1 calls, V2 calls, the blinds fold.

Flop: 28$: 986. Hero c-bets 20$, V1 calls, V2 calls.

Turn: 88$: 4. Hero bets 60$, V1 folds, V2 raises to 170. Hero goes all in.

Is there any reason to play this differently OOP? I figure if I call theres a ton of rivers that either hit him or ruin my action, plus Im OOP so I would have to donk, allowing him to play pretty much perfectly whatever the river is if hes on a draw. If I just raise smaller instead of all in, I feel like he can call and expect to get the rest of my stack if he hits because I have so little behind, and fold if he misses when I put the rest in.

Is there anything wrong with this train of thought?
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02-13-2016 , 01:43 PM
Given how strong your line looks and him not caring, this is an easy shove for me. Set over set or draw IMO if he has a straight its kind of lol but nothing you can do
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02-13-2016 , 03:29 PM
I think you played it fine and I can't think of any other way to play it for the same reasons you already mentioned.

There's little reason to think you're behind. V could have a worse set or 2P (even though I'd expect him to have raised flop with those) and given that he's a competent LAG, he could also have hands like JT, QJ, A7 and trying to push you off an overpair.

Oh, and there's nothing bad about opening 74s.
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02-14-2016 , 05:47 AM
Guess this is super standard then?
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02-14-2016 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Guess this is super standard then?
Well the only hands that beat you OTT are T7 and 57. If you think he only raises turn with a straight then it's a fold. But he's a LAG so if he can have 57 then he can also have 86 and 64 for example.

And you're more likely to have an OP than a set, nevermind top set. AK type hands make sense for your line too. 2P crushes OP/NFD and top set crushes lower set. So you can see how you can't fold to the lag when he raises turn.
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02-14-2016 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Guess this is super standard then?

Yes for sure super standard. Arent folding top set on this turn like ever: if we manage to run into a straight imo lets pair the board and fill up the ship. We are at the very top of our range with top set here and the board is super wet- folding is the last thing going through my mind. We can bet/fold overpairs like JJ or QQ, but with top set we are not going anywhere.


This hand becomes more complex if we play like 500-800 BB deep and having the same spot.
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