2/2 private game.

Extremely fishy. Maybe the best game Hero has ever sat in.
People limping basically 100% and paying off huge with mediocre hands. Going all in on flush draws, gut shots and so on. If a raise is pre it's usually for 30-50 bb and they happily show AA-JJ or AQs+ when everybody folded. If pots got to the river and people bet big on River though, they usually had a monster. Weird stuff every now and again where trips or something are checked until River and then only called when they are behind. Not a lot of bluffing thoug.

Everybody except for V1 and Hero have rebought several times. Hero up because of several Value Spots. Stack 400, bought in for 200.

History hand: hero raised 88, 3 player, including V1. Flop 8J2 hero bets, V1 calls. Turn 3 hero bets, V1 calls. River 7 hero bets and V1 jams for 200 bbs more. Hero folded, V1 showed T9 and Hero was sort of talked into/forced to show and showed 88. Table certainly played differently against hero after this.

V1: Greek 60s, Gambler looking Type. The owner of the game sits with an estimated 10.000 in front of him and is a endless cash well. Played absolute nuts via check raise on River twice, calls draws for any amount.

V2: Serbian 40s, Casino reg (WHere Hero also Plays), on second bullet. Bet big twice on River with nuts and got unlucky a few times. Definitely too loose pre, but seems solid post. 140

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Oth

Game 5 handed, BTN straddle 5, V1 calls in SB, V2 calls in BB, 1 limp, hero overlimps 55, btn checks.

Flop 25
T96
Checks through.

Turn 25
T965
Checks to Hero, who bets 18, V1, calls, V2 calls.

River 79
T9659
V1 checks, V2 looks at cards and then bets 68, Hero ???

Is this a raise or a call?

If we call and V1 raises, V2 calls, can we ever be good here?

V2 only had 70 BB to start so I would set him AI. Why can't he have 9x here? All you did was bet turn IP. You could have been trying to steal, or maybe semi bluffing a FD. There's no reason for him to think you have a boat.

If you call and V1 raises and V2 calls, I might find a call still. A 60s Greek gambler with $10K (did I read that right?) in front of him just isn't going to check oop three times with T9 or 66. He's here to gamble and he's gonna want to splash the pot. How else is he going to make money? He could have slowplayed a straight to oblivion and V2 could be unwilling to release trips. The main thing is that no one can know you have a boat so a lot of worse hands look like the nuts here.

Raise. Definitely raise. If V1 re-raises, I'd have to soul-read, but from description it's a very bad thing. I am not worried about V1 with his stack size, obviously.

He check/raised the river twice with the absolute nuts, so I'd be a little worried if he check/raised here -- especially to a bet and 3bet. Now, if we just call, which I wouldn't do, I would call his 3bet, although I wouldn't be too happy about it.

[QUOTE=DTLB;49721494]A 60s Greek gambler with $10K (did I read that right?)[QUOTE]

Yes. Biggest stack i have ever seen in a 2/2 game

Yeah true. Then maybe we have to not label him a gambler. If he really checked T9 or a set three times oop and if we know he calls with draws for any price, then he's a passive fish, not a gambler. Gamblers don't like to check. They like to throw chips in the middle and build pots. They crave the action and it stokes their ego lol.

But he bought in with it, correct? No way he won it

I don't really see the point of sitting so deep. I guess he's trying to bully you guys, but ES is ES.

(He's just begging to get robbed.)

Well, that is also the chip stack he is using to give money out to players who rebuy.

It is probably more than 10k

Well, I labeled him looking a like agambler, which is probably a bad description, but he has that look about him. And calling virtually any raise with draws is gambling.

Raise for pretty clear value.

If you call and V1 ck-r it's a snap, even in a limped pot. It would take earth shattering power for him to have a hand >55599 here when getting to riv this way, not to mention the high likelihood that V2 has a heavy 9x range that takes this lines as well. If the turn completed the rainbow, he'd have stronger hands, but that's not the case.

Calling any raise with draws is definitely gambling, but so is betting draws and air. That's why it's important to have a more accurate description of villain. If he calls draws no matter what as well as checking down top two, then he's loose passive (although the latter is tight passive) and we can fold when he raises.

If he bets his draws and big hands and air, then he's loose aggressive and we can call wider against him.

And when someone sits down with $10K in a 2/2 game, it normally indicates he wants to use his stack. But his actions are not consistent with that so it helps to have a better label for him than looking like a gambler.

Overbet the turn. These guys call bets for seemingly any amount with draws, so let's go ahead and get max value with our monster. As played, shove river, as you're getting called by any 9.