Hero: Been playing TAG, shown down a couple good hands
V1: 30s WM, pretty standard rec type player
V2: White woman, late 50s at a guess. Has been playing really passively. In a hand earlier I raised 99 and she flatted in the blind, check called 442, CRAI for like 1.5x my bet total OTT and showed QQ. I spiked a 9 on the river because that's how I roll. There was another hand where she failed to make a pretty obvious value bet OTR.

Stack sizes not important.

I'm OTB and limp 97 behind two limpers. 5 ways to the flop.

Flop: J 7 7 ($10)

SB checks, V1 leads out for pot from the BB and he's a bit of a tellbox. My read here is that he really likes his hand. I think this probably means a good jack or any 7, not sure which. V2 calls. I am concerned by the extent to which V1 loves his hand and flat.

Turn: T ($40)

V1 cannot conceal his disgust at this card. I struggle to avoid laughing. He eventually bets $25. V2 calls. I call.

River: Q ($115)

V1 checks. V2 checks. Hero?

Its actually a weird spot and tough to know if we have the best hand or not. Villains bet on the turn feels like trips scared of a flush but it could still be a jack. It's not crazy for villains to both have a J here either. It might be kind of thin but I'd bet $55 and fold to a raise.

River is a snap check behind for me. I'm not sure what we get value from that is worse or what better we get to fold. Maybe get calls from JT or QJ if we bet? Better 7s never fold.

Bet 175

This seems like a pretty hot take. Expand?

I guess stack sizes do matter. I don't remember what they were. V1 and I would both have 175+, but V2 didn't. Not sure what she had left but my guess would be maybe 100.

Something like this was my 2nd option. Might get a better 7 or a straight to fold and I'm pretty confident that no one has a flush after they both check. Basically turning our hand into a bluff and still might get a hero call out of Jx or QJ.

Not prepared to bluff these two. Check it down and take whatever's yours.

Hmm, might results at this point then:

Ya I think it's pretty standard to check here but I'd probably value own myself too cuz I'm a greedy pig

Well, I made ranges for both of these two to count the combos they'll likely call with:

As I'm counting V1's likely holdings, I see ~75 combos OTR. We lose to 15 of them and beat 22, chopping the others.

[AdJd, AhJh, AsJs, KdJd, KhJh, KsJs, QhJh, QsJs, Ad7d, Kd7d, Jd7d, Td7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, 7d6d, 7d5d, 7d4d, 7d3d, 7d2d, AdJh, AdJs, AhJd, AhJs, AsJh, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, Ah7d, As7d, Ac7d, KdJh, KdJs, KhJd, KhJs, KsJh, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, Kh7d, Ks7d, Kc7d, QhJd, QhJs, QsJd, QsJh, QcJd, QcJh, QcJs, Qh7d, Qs7d, Qc7d, Jh7d, Js7d, Th7d, Ts7d, 9s7d, 9c7d, 8h7d, 8s7d, 8c7d, 7h6d, 7s6d, 7c6d, 7h5d, 7s5d, 7c5d, 7h4d, 7s4d, 7c4d, 7h3d, 7s3d, 7c3d, 7h2d, 7s2d, 7c2d]




Looking at V2 however, I'm counting a loss of 73 out ~141 possible combos, though V2 is a bit tougher to range b/c of the different FD she's likely to limp and float flop with. I also think she'd have all 98 gutters in her flop float range. Since she's so passive I included TT+ pp.

[KK+, QhQs, QhQc, QsQc, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, TdTh, TdTs, ThTs, ATs, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, AdJd, AhJh, AsJs, KdJd, KhJh, KsJs, QhJh, QsJs, JdTd, JhTh, JsTs, Ac9c, Kc9c, Qc9c, Ac8c, Kc8c, Qc8c, 9d8d, 9s8s, 9c8c, Ad7d, Kd7d, Jd7d, Td7d, 9d7d, 8d7d, Ac6c, Kc6c, Qc6c, 9c6c, 8c6c, 7d6d, Ac5c, Kc5c, Qc5c, 8c5c, 7d5d, 6c5c, Ac4c, Kc4c, Qc4c, 7d4d, 6c4c, 5c4c, Ac3c, Kc3c, Qc3c, 4c3c, Ac2c, Kc2c, Qc2c, AdJh, AdJs, AhJd, AhJs, AsJh, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, Ah7d, As7d, Ac7d, KdJh, KdJs, KhJd, KhJs, KsJh, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, Kh7d, Ks7d, Kc7d, QhJd, QhJs, QsJd, QsJh, QcJd, QcJh, QcJs, Qh7d, Qs7d, Qc7d, JdTh, JdTs, JhTd, JhTs, JsTd, JsTh, Jh7d, Js7d, Th7d, Ts7d, 9d8h, 9d8s, 9d8c, 9s8d, 9s8h, 9s8c, 9c8d, 9c8h, 9c8s, 9s7d, 9c7d, 8h7d, 8s7d, 8c7d, 7h6d, 7s6d, 7c6d, 7h5d, 7s5d, 7c5d]

EDIT: I must have screencapped something else, but it's not the range I had when getting the 141



Might be best to check this one back in this spot.

I would isolate large pre.

Flop & turn are okay.

River is very thin. Probably just check it back. There's a straight & flush out there, and I seriously doubt Jx is calling. Also, you don't beat that many 7x hands.

I don't beat any 7x hands. Kicker doesn't play.

I raise this hand preflop in this spot sometimes. On this occasion I'd recently folded preflop raises to a threebet and a limp reraise, so I felt like my preflop image was a bit iffy.

How large are we talking btw? If you're going to make it 20 or something just so you can get it heads up I'm not really a fan. This hand is a (very small) dog to a random hand preflop but it plays pretty nicely in position multiway, so there's some opportunity cost. Rake is giant where I play (10% capped at $15, no flop no rake) so while taking it down preflop is a good result, battling a calling station heads up with what is probably a worse hand than they have, equity wise, is probably kind of marginal when you factor in the rake.

Check. The tell and the other player's likelyhood of a jack means it is more likely the opponent has a 7 than a J. You do not have an ace kicker.

Just read the result, oops. If opponent doesn't have a J and clubs instead then it is worse, never bet here. HU v tellbox is another story.