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08-03-2018 , 01:20 PM

DumbosTrunk

Verified Coach PLO5

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 7,322

Hi all,

1/3. V1, EP raiser, is middle aged Asian male (have seen him raise J9hh). He has been playing short stacked, sitting around $150. V2 on BTN is MABG also short, around $160. Hero covers. V1 raises to $10, V2 call, hero 3! $34 with A-10cc. Hero should have the tightest image at the table. Both call. Pot $96.

Flop: Kc-Jc-6d.

Hero bets $40. There is a $900 royal flush promo.

Thanks,
DT

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08-03-2018 , 02:17 PM

NittyOldMan1

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,452

i dont understand 3 betting pre so small OOP vs. these stack sizes, seems like you're just bloating the pot for no reason

either call or 3 bet pre to like 50 and then shove any flop imo

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08-03-2018 , 02:27 PM

QuadJ

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 6,237

Your hand isn't really good enough to squeeze OOP against 2 short stacks. It's not strong enough to be value but it's a bit too good to be a bluff. It isn't a terrible play though and couple be workable if you V1 will raise/fold a good portion of the time.

On the flop your committed because of pot odds with your draw, any chance an ace is good is just a bonus. Bet $70 like you had AK and call a shove. If you get called on the flop go ahead and shove turn, though it's more semi-bluff at that point.

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08-03-2018 , 02:29 PM

wait

banned

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,115

Cool sizing making it 34.

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08-03-2018 , 02:36 PM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,340

They're both so short I would just call pre, you would need to 3bet to at least 50

I'm jamming the flop with these stack sizes but yes you have one out in 47 cards to win the promo.

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08-03-2018 , 02:45 PM

gobbledygeek

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,149

Probably arguments for all 3 plays (raise / call / fold) preflop.

With only a little over a PSB left, I probably open shove the flop. We have good hand equity and should have ok FE against some currently better hands. Not sure I love this sized donk as a big part of the strength of our hand is our FE and I'm not sure we leave us much on the turn with just < 1/2 PSB left. If these guys are shot takers against weakness I wouldn't hate a check/shove either (although again our FE might be limited since they'll be getting such good odds to call off the rest of their stack at that point so they'd need to be betting with air a lot).

GcluelessNLnoobG

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08-03-2018 , 03:21 PM

setintostraight

adept

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 884

Open shove flop and I don't think it's particularly close.

Fold equity against both of them combined should be at least 10% here, and if not, we have a ton of outs.

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