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06-02-2014 , 10:25 PM
Casino 1/2 game, playing SUPER aggressive. This 1/2 game is playing like a wild 2/5 game.

Hero has been playing pretty tight due to the wild nature of the table, card dead and getting no real opportunites to do anything, especially since Villain got to the table. Any moves I made or major hands I won happened prior to Villain getting to the table, he knows me as pretty tight. Sitting with around $450.

Villain redefines the word "maniac". He has been at the table for about 90 minutes prior to the hand, and has open raised nearly every single hand to between $30-$40. In a 1/2 game. He has 3-bet several hands that he did not open, has fired hard post flop, and has showed down crappy hands that won massive pots. He called off $300 preflop with A9 and hit against QQ. Sitting with around $1200 after catching fire.

On to the hand...

Villain opens EP to $30 as usual, and it folds around to hero OTB with KK.

Now the question here is one that I have been wrestling with the past 24 hours since the hand....does hero flat the $30, play position against the maniac and let him fire at the flop, when we really cant assign him ANY range at all, or do we 3-bet him, looking to get the money in right now?
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06-02-2014 , 10:47 PM
How often is he calling a 3 bet? Is he going to get married to Q5 when he flops tp? Does he fire double and triple barrels often w/air? W/out knowing a ton about this guy I'd 3 bet to like 75, check most flops and let him barrell away.
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06-02-2014 , 10:51 PM
3-bets pre never scared him. He called most 3-bets preflop, and even 4-bet a several.

He gets married to pretty much any hand postflop, he very rarely found his fold button. He triple barreled several hands, showing down pretty much a little of everything.

Nearly every hand that occured since his arrival at the table involved him for 90 minutes. He was firing indiscriminately at every hand, on every street, like he was playing with play money on pokerstars in 2008.
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06-03-2014 , 12:31 AM
I would jam here and play on him, not the cards. If he folds be happy $30, you took a pot from him, make him a bit angry and show strength. If he calls you are in nice shape and ready to enjoy variance train.
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06-03-2014 , 12:36 AM
i would either 3b small to induce so i can shove pre, or just make it 100 and try to get it in whenever possible.
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06-03-2014 , 12:59 AM
Make it $100. You want to be heads up with the maniac and get it all in by the river.
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06-03-2014 , 02:16 AM
[ ] Interesting PF spot
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06-03-2014 , 03:27 AM
Jam wud be atrocious
Depending on his cbet freq call cud be fine but I like riser to like 75-100 more, cause he's never folding any pair any ace any suited connector. Also he might jam JJ or qq where u lose value if a flops.
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06-03-2014 , 03:51 AM
If he doesn't fold; make it 125$.
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06-03-2014 , 08:34 AM
Good responses.
I ended up making it $90, it folded back to him where he tanked for about a minute before FOLDING! It was practically the first hand he folded pre since he got there, it almost sent me steaming.
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06-03-2014 , 08:47 AM
Against a maniac, any line is probably going to be profitable. Flat, raise or shove are all going to be +EV. Villain is likely to put you on AK/JJ when you shove and call wider then he should but your deep enough that it is probably the lowest EV line. With the effective stacks, flat or raise are probably about the same EV. Deeper raising would be better, but your short enough here that villain is likely to bluff off or value bet you all in with top pair.

If you do flat, just don't give up easily. You need to call 99% of flops and most turns and rivers.
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06-03-2014 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Against a maniac, any line is probably going to be profitable. Flat, raise or shove are all going to be +EV. Villain is likely to put you on AK/JJ when you shove and call wider then he should but your deep enough that it is probably the lowest EV line. With the effective stacks, flat or raise are probably about the same EV. Deeper raising would be better, but your short enough here that villain is likely to bluff off or value bet you all in with top pair.

If you do flat, just don't give up easily. You need to call 99% of flops and most turns and rivers.
And this is why I did end up raising. I was concerned about seeing a flop against him with NO range whatsoever to assign him, knowing that I would haveto be ready to dance on pretty much any flop. I wanted the action preflop, but then after I raised and he ended up folding, I was beating myself up because I started wondering if I had just flatted I may have gotten alot more action post flop.
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