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01-20-2019 , 01:24 AM
Villain is pretty tight and rarely goes too much out of line. He sees me as a very tight player.

We are playing 10/20c with a standard opening size of 2$, my stack size is 47$ and V covers me.

V opens UTG to 2$, I am UTG+1 and call with KQ , there is one more caller behind.

Flop: KT5 (6$)

V cbets 5$, I call and the other guy folds.

Turn: J (16$)

V bets 12$, I call.

River: 8 (40$)

V goes allin (28$ effective) Hero: ??

This kinda looks like a fold to me. My thinking for this hand is that he isn't value betting AK or AA on this runout because i can have lots of 2 pair hands, so his value range is TT(3 combos) KK(1 combo), KJs(1 combo, I think he wouldn't open KJo from UTG) and maybe AQ although I'm not sure he would cbet that against 2 players and i block AQ of hearts. His bluffs are AJ of hearts and QJs (pretty sure he doesn't open QJo from UTG, not even sure about QJs...).

So basically 5 value combos and 1-3 bluff combos, and we are getting a price of around 1:2.5 on a call.

Last edited by Garick; 01-20-2019 at 10:26 AM. Reason: removed results
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01-20-2019 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JovaKarambol
Villain is pretty tight and rarely goes too much out of line. He sees me as a very tight player.

We are playing 10/20c with a standard opening size of 2$, my stack size is 47$ and V covers me.

V opens UTG to 2$, I am UTG+1 and call with KQ , there is one more caller behind.

Flop: KT5 (6$)

V cbets 5$, I call and the other guy folds.

Turn: J (16$)

V bets 12$, I call.

River: 8 (40$)

V goes allin (28$ effective), Hero??

My thinking for this hand is that he isn't value betting AK or AA on this runout because i can have lots of 2 pair hands, so his value range is TT(3 combos) KK(1 combo), KJs(1 combo, I think he wouldn't open KJo from UTG) and maybe AQ although I'm not sure he would cbet that against 2 players and i block AQ of hearts. His bluffs are AJ of hearts and QJs (pretty sure he doesn't open QJo from UTG, not even sure about QJs...).

So basically 5 value combos and 1-3 bluff combos, and we are getting a price of around 1:2.5 on a call.
How many handed? If this is anything close to full ring, preflop is a disaster and this needs to be folded.

As played, fairly standard fold. Having the Qh is terrible here. Board also coordinates well with a lot of his EP range. Plus the bluffs you list paired up on the turn so he may be inclined to try and show down against a Tx hand.

Last edited by Garick; 01-20-2019 at 10:26 AM.
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01-20-2019 , 06:46 AM
^ that
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01-20-2019 , 10:32 AM
Please don't post results. They bias people's responses. I edited them out.

I don't hate the PF call as much as the others, since you are 235BBs deep. With a standard opening size of 10xBB though, that's not so very deep, and your not in good position. It's a fold pre.

Flop call is good. Turn would be a fold if we hadn't added a SD. A tight player is betting 3/4 pot into another tight player, so TP2ndK is not great. OTOH, he might give up OTR and we have some SDV, or we could bink a straight (though there really aren't any IOs to speak of, since it will be a 4-liner).

AP to river, neither of those happened, so this is a pretty easy fold, imo.
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01-20-2019 , 10:35 AM
Yeah, it was full ring, maybe 8 handed can't remember.

I guess he would slow down with some of his jacks on the turn, although he probably knows it's not good, but yeah it makes it even less likely he is bluffing.

I'm flatting with most(some nights all) of the hands I want to play with him here preflop, I think that allows for an occasional KQo to slip in here and there If we assume he is opening KJs and QJs from UTG my range is still stronger than his.
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