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1/3nl, UTG with A10s 1/3nl, UTG with A10s

06-03-2013 , 05:01 PM
I just sit down and the first hand I see is a10s UTG. I know the players at the table because they are all regular's and one is a huge fish who is OTB.

I open for 18 and everyone folds to the button who calls.

Flop comes

A46o

I bet out 30, button calls.

Turn comes 7

I check (feeling confident I am good here) button fires 60, I shove for like 40 more. he calls

River comes 8

he turns over two pair 48o

I wanted to give an aggressive look on my first hand. Any feedback is appreciated
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06-03-2013 , 05:08 PM
First, UTG this is a fold more often then not.

Second, buy-in full. Given the way the action went, you only had 50 bb's, so the villains call of your shove is pretty much due to being committed.

Third, I likely just shove the turn and pray villain doesn't look me up, plus it plays into your comment of being aggressive your first hand. Checking is not aggressive.
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06-03-2013 , 05:15 PM
Just fold pre. Look aggressive on your 3rd or 4th hand when ip, works a lot better ime. If not, psb flop shove turn

If playing short stack A10 UTG = fold
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06-03-2013 , 05:32 PM
read the sticky about how to post hand histories correctly

fold pre unless you feel comfortable with the table enough to maneuver this hand post flop oop

turn is a check/fold unless you know V will fire all of his range at perceived weakness when you check

even though he turned over 84, i think youre often going to see bigger aces given the action
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06-03-2013 , 05:43 PM
Clearly he has a read on the button that this isn't the case
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06-03-2013 , 05:53 PM
The button is a huge cash game fish, just trying to log hours for a tournament freeroll. He is a huge gambelor.

I appreciate the feedback, but I checked the turn because I knew he would fire a bet that would make him commited.

After this hand, I realized that the posts about folding UTG are probably the best advice possible. I am a beginner, so I will look into the hand histories thing, thanks!
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06-04-2013 , 12:59 AM
If this was a full ring, then ATo, UTG is no good. 6 handed is different.
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06-04-2013 , 01:00 AM
It was suited
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06-04-2013 , 01:15 AM
50BB doesn't matter. If you're playing a hand w detailed reads you need to provide them. In general against a huge fish you should just bet turn yourself.
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06-04-2013 , 01:17 AM
Also larger to this hand I don't get the goal of attaining an 'agressive' image. What's the goal?
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06-04-2013 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ultqb7
It was suited

hm, so it was.


well. fold, limp,or raise are the options.
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06-04-2013 , 03:44 AM
You have plenty of info on this guy so use it. If he is a gambler than i would assume he calls too much and i'm never checking this turn as played but you know him better than us. Sounds like you have right about a psb left ott. I would recommend sitting w/ 100bbs also if casino/your bank roll allow it.

I don't hate a raise pf here against a table that i'm familiar w/ as long as i know what my plan is to exploit my opponents. especially if the only caller is the reason for being at the table!
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06-04-2013 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by aces_dad
50BB doesn't matter. If you're playing a hand w detailed reads you need to provide them. In general against a huge fish you should just bet turn yourself.
So against fish, we never let them get there, or take the risk of letting them get there without paying for it?

That makes a lot of sense. I just knew he would try to steal the pot, and on the flop he is jamming if he has a hand even close to mine. But I like your viewpoint better.

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Originally Posted by aces_dad
Also larger to this hand I don't get the goal of attaining an 'agressive' image. What's the goal?
Now that you put it like that I feel stupid, the tables are reg's, or have been for the past 2 weeks trying to log the hours. And they are all aggressive, they would rather play 2/5 but its hard to get a game going, so what's my tactic vs. a table full of aggressive players?

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Originally Posted by undurrrated18
You have plenty of info on this guy so use it. If he is a gambler than i would assume he calls too much and i'm never checking this turn as played but you know him better than us. Sounds like you have right about a psb left ott. I would recommend sitting w/ 100bbs also if casino/your bank roll allow it.

I don't hate a raise pf here against a table that i'm familiar w/ as long as i know what my plan is to exploit my opponents. especially if the only caller is the reason for being at the table!
They are aggressive, and can play fairly well, but there isn't anyone at the table who is 3betting without a better hand (if that makes sense) but I will run into a lot of flats with KQ, AQ, AJ, as expected. So what's my best option then, just fold pre I am assuming?
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