Hero ($230): 20yo Indian. Has been at the table for about half an orbit, has raised one hand so far from CO, and took it down 3-way IP with a 2/3 c-bet after raising V's limp to $16 pre on a 688cc flop.

V ($200): 50s-60s white guy. Seems very fishy, has limp-called every hand I've seen so far. On my first hand at the table he limp-called QTo against a BB raise, stacking off on a KQ74r board, binking a Q otr against K5s after being AI ott. Seems to be super fit-fold though, as he insta-mucked KQo face-up in the 688 hand above.


Onto the hand, 8 handed:

UTG folds, V limps UTG+1, hero is UTG+2 w/KJ and raises to $16, as the next 4(!) players to act are already telegraphing folds. Folded to V who calls without much thought.

Flop ($35): JT8

V leads for $16, hero calls.

I called here rather than raise because I hadn't seen him donk a flop yet, and given his play so far, I didn't think he would ever do this with a draw, and I hadn't seen enough of his play to think he would call a raise here with Tx or 8x.

Turn ($67): J

V leads for $16 again. Hero raises to $65. V thinks for longer than he did on earlier streets, but not for too long still, and calls. He still looked like he was never thinking of folding when he called.

When V lead for $16 again, my thoughts were that his hand definitely hadn't improved, but at the same time didn't hate the card. As such, his range here seemed like Tx, 8x or 99. Given that players like this tend to 'put you on AK', and that I almost always have the best hand here, I raised for value, since I didn't expect Tx or 99 to ever fold, and Q8/89/78 probably aren't folding either. A weirdly played Jx is also obviously never folding.

River ($167): 7

V checks, hero?

This looks like V absolutely hates this river card, or is trying to trap because he puts me on AK. I felt this was the worst card in the deck because there is a tonne of 9x in his range, and the only Jx I now beat is QJ.

The real question is, how often does he call here with Tx/8x, and is there any other sizing for a value bet here besides all-in?

You do realize that 99 now beats you, right? They have a straight.

Yeah, I'm just wondering if Tx/8x hands will 'put me on AK' and call. Also, given he's limp-calling really wide pre-flop, how often does he turn up with a worse Jx (j6-)?

Would he ever check a straight? If he is fishy as you state, I would think he bet it. I'm probably shoving here and if he was savvy enough to check in that spot, then nice play.

If you value bet here, it has to be all in.

I mean, he either calls or he doesn't. There is no in between.
But yeah, he would have had to have donked KJ/QJ here more than he donk all J7-JT put together and call a river raise with all KJ/QJ hands that he has for a river raise to be profitable.

I just don't feel that's the case.
So call.

Not that worried we're behind. I don't expect to get called a lot but I'm value shoving. It's like 97 eff stacks. The thing is I think a lot of missed fd's and not-TP-plus-a-draw hands are folding and can't call anything. So I'd shove and expect to be called by QJ and expect almost all else to fold.

Based on how he played this I think he's afraid YOU have the straight (or J) - I put him on 88 or 10-10. He'll call a value bet.

88 and TT are full houses here... we don't beat a full house.

Yep. You're right. Then it's hard to put V on anything but JX.

This isn't a thin spot

easy shove with stack sizes

you have a monster against this player type with the line he took