Crazy hand. Don’t really know what to do...

Hero 400. Everyone else has around 500. Not much raising postflop. Mostly stations.

Hero UTG 15 QQds MP, CO, SB call. Flop KQJhh Hero bets 35, MP raises 70, CO raises 225, SB flats 225. Hero ?????

Sigh gii. If CO & MP ever has worse than a straight here and you fold that’s a huge EV disaster. Also the fact sb calls gives us better pot odds to redraw in case we are behind

Is the flop KhQhJh?

I'm not a huge fan of the preflop result but I'm always outvoted on this so whatever.

SPR is 6.5 on the flop (note I'm assuming no flush possible at this point). It's unlikely anyone has a bigger set. It's possible someone has a straight, but we have outs. There's a decent chance there are a bunch of big hands (two pears, pear + draw, big draws, etc.). This is not a board I want to play out over 3 streets. So with that in mind, I'd either (a) overbet the flop to like ~$100 to setup a turn shove, or check/raise (perhaps just shoving) the flop (especially if people in later positions can be stabby to weakness). So I'm not really a fan of our ~1/2 PSB at all.

As played, I'd probably jam. Certainly possible we're behind but at worse should have okish equity with this huge money already in the pot and no one being able to fold to a shove at this point. Although I haven't stoved it and it's possible that enough of our outs (if behind) are being sucked up by others at this point to perhaps (???) consider a fold.

GcluelessNLnoobG

If I did the math correctly, CO could show you AT and it's still a call, right?

As I say, I'm too lazy too math, but I'm guessing it might be close if someone showed you a straight and others showed you some sucked up outs? But yeah, I don't see how we can get away in general.

GcluelessNLnoobG

If we assume that someone has us beat here, flatting is significantly better than jamming. We want MP to come in with a FD or whatever else he might have, since we need to boat up no matter what. Might as well entice him to get some extra money in there, when we are never folding turn anyway.

Not that i ever would, but there is something to be said for a fold here. In a lot of scenario's we are up against hands like KJ and T9 and we are not getting anywhere near correct odds.


GG's post did make me hungry for some fruit, tho .

If I told you that MP had ATss, what does MP and SB have and are you calling here?

I tried to talk to some of the players in the hand and MP said he hoped that I folded. lol.