1-3NL: Folding Full House on River?
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Friday night at Florida casino. 1-3NL. My second hand at table, am in big blind. Recognize no one that factors into hand. Have $300. All but 2 stacks cover. UTG opens to $10. I close action by calling. Have 33. 7 players to flop. Flop is 2d-3x-4x. I check, with intention of check-raising. Checked all around. This is very rare on a flop of this texture. River is 7d, putting 2 diamonds on board. I lead $50 into ~$65 pot (after rake). UTG folds. UTG+1 flats. All else fold. River is 4d, completing backdoor flush. I lead $100 into pot of ~$165. Villain thinks for an average amount of time and raises me all-in. I think for 2 minutes about folding a full house. My gut was telling me I was behind, Ultimately, I call. Reasoning was that the only hands that beat me are flopped set of 4s (which now is quads) that also was going for a flop-check-raise and did not raise the scary board on the turn or a turned set of 7s. There are so many bad players who overplay hands that to put him on those two hands seemed to me a bit lit seeing monsters in the closet. It also was calling $140 into a pot of ~$505.
Obviously, I lose. Villain had pockets 4s, for rivered quads. While I'm open to comments on all streets, my reason for posting is the river play. Especially the calling off of all-in after getting raised. Thanks in advance.
Join Date: May 2005
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Super easy fist pump call given stacksizes and the fact v could be overplaying diamonds or 4x. It takes a strong read to even consider folding here.
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Don't include results in original post, it warps perspective too much.
As played, obvious call but I wouldn't consider it a happy one. A lot of villains would figure a big flush is good here and 2's full is obviously possible also, your stack is too small to get away from a full house without a lot of history.
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I'd snap call but I would have also lead out on flop
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Lead flop. You'll get called by overs, over pairs, OESDs more than enough than the times you get oversetted or a made straight.
As played obvious call on river. Not deep enough and no reads to be able to fold.
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Lead flop.
As played, this is one of the easiest river calls in the history of poker. Just the fact that he can have 22 as well as 44 and 77 makes this trivial, not to mention all the other possibilities.
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Never folding here for these stack sizes.
Ever.
Unless he literally turns over 44. The maybe I fold.
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Preflop is standard, imo.
I'd probably just donk a PSB+ on this board which sets us up for a shove on the turn. Although, with a drawy board like this one and the pot already huge, I don't despise a check/shove (and I am shocked that this board can check around this many ways, unlucky).
As played, I also lead turn, but I want to setup a river shove, which means we're going to need a PSB+, imo.
Even though it's an overbet, I would shove the river. Villain is never laying down a flush, probably struggling to lay down a straight, and might even have a difficult time laying down 4x. There are so many hands we beat here, all of which think they could have ~nuttish hands. As played, I'm never considering folding this board given the remaining stack sizes and I'm snap calling.
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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i think you played it fine. aside from your gut feeling... i can't see any reason to fold. much more likely to be a straight, a flush, even 4x.