Sometimes an asteroid/comet hits the earth and kills 75% of the species on earth. But we don't worry about it.

Sometimes a lamb kills the butcher, but he doesn't worry about it.

Sometimes there is a monster under the bed.

Don't worry about it.

Make it 205 to go.

If he is first to act on a sopping wet board and check min raises his 77 then, yeah you lose a bunch.

Don't worry about it.

***Result***

Nice hand.

GimoG

You probably hit the bottom of his c/r value range. Maybe a weak Q or AdJx. I really doubt he's dumping two pair on the blankest of turns.

Well this was anticlimactic.

I almost think the turn bet shoulda been closer to pot size like 150


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Haha. Couldn't agree more.

Agreed.

I think flop is a call mostly for the reasons Avaritia was hinting at.

Our range is super capped and V should know this. His c/r range is way looser than his continuing range vs. a 3-bet.

I'm calling flop for deception and to keep both ours and Vs range wider. I am not proceeding cautiously though on all but the most dangerous of turns. I'm pretty happy to shovel as much money as possible in on most turn cards.


quick comment on this. As a general rule, you are correct. However, in this situation, where both of our ranges are capped, and we are pretty much at the top of our range, it would be a pretty big cooler to run into 77 here.

^ 3-bet/calling off a 4-bet shove OTF 6-way with QJ here vs SB x/r is not a cooler in a SPR 20 pot IP

You are thinking too far ahead about too many negative outcomes.

Your thought process needs to go like this.

Pretty hand. Position. Raise.

Worrying about what happens when someone has KQ or someone flops a set or the dealer has a heart attack mid-burn, you're just wasting so much energy. Worry is is the greatest soul suck that life has to offer. Stop it.

Work with the things you do know now in the present. Like the fact that raising an equity smashing hand like QJs in position is going to be very profitable.

@ Ava regarding preflop

He's simply making a plan revolving around hitting the most common hand he's going to hit, which is a one pair hand with meh kicker, and those hands don't want a big pot. If we happen to luck out and hit a nice drawing hand, we can use our postflop position to build as big as pot as we'd like when we'd like it. Heck, even here we flopped a nuttish hand and yet few of us are happy to get stacks in on the flop.

In Limit, I'd *always* raise this hand, as we need to capitalize on all our equity edges on each street, and if we happen to flop a dominated TP, whatever, it's Limit, we're not going to lose that much (while always being able to get to the river to realize our equity). In NL, I'm much more cool with being much more passive here, and passing on our very slight equity edge preflop and waiting for massive postflop edges, plus not getting ourselves into far too big of pots with TPmK (our most commonly flopped hand) where we won't necessarily be getting to the river to realize our equity.

But, I'll admit it is certainly debatable and not everyone will agree with that reasoning.

GimoG

I would agree in most scenarios, but fold equity was far to low at this table to ignore how my hand stacks up against others pre-flop. My point is, were only continuing post flop with a solid hit to our hand and if we get into a J82 scenario, I could get into trouble vs. KJ because Im likely to call a few bets thin since opponents so LAGy.

Also, pot was $36 (it was straddled remember). Ex-deep villain, SPR was around 6 against other LAGs. Not auto all-in situations of course, but if hero hits, not far off from getting it in.