This really needs some description of SB. Particularly when he calls out of the SB with nobody else involved his range is stronger. You should also have some idea what his range is after he calls flop. The bluff line in general depends heavily on villain's range and play style.
Trying to bluff river after you checked turn is a mistake. Checking turn on a such a draw heavy board makes it look like your afraid of the ace so your FE on the river goes way down. Probably zero against villain's AX but his flop calling range is wider then that.
Preflop sizing depends on your game and looks OK. On the flop bet something around $20/$25. You have a very good draw but you are drawing. You want to get FE without drawing attention to your hand. Plus, betting the flop smaller makes it possible to continue on the turn. A lot of hands that call flop will give up when the ace hits and you continue. And making a river bet is more credible if you bet flop and turn.
With a draw as good as yours betting flop would be normal heads up but you should check occasionally. Continuing on the turn should be less common but a turn bluff if you checked flop is likely to look good. And putting in the river bluff should be rare.
Last edited by Garick; 11-26-2017 at 08:57 PM.
Reason: removed reference to results
Welcome to the forum, OP. In the future, please don't give away results, as it biases advice. I edited them out. As QuadJ mentioned, we really need to know more about SB before we can comment.
Generally speaking I would have fired another barrel on the turn. An A is a great card for you as you can easily be rapping the nut-flush draw. Would expect a 2nd barrel to take this one down nearly all of the time. If it doesn't you still have tons of equity heading to the river and, should you bink, you're in a better position to get paid big-time. Would bet $65-70 on turn. I would have bet turn also with any KK/QQ type hands. Basically I would have bet the A on the turn with ATC's.
Once you check the turn it's hard to rep a hand on the river that can beat J10. If you give up on the turn a river betting line doesn't make sense and is likely to get looked up light.
You absolutely must double barrel here if you want to bluff river. If I am villain and call flop with top or second pair I'm looking you up on most rivers after you check turn.
Bet/bet/shove vs weak capped range. Also don't think it's a great spot to bet more than pot on the flop. It's actually way better of a flop for you and we don't exactly want a fold. Would be better without one of the draws or maybe just a gutter/fd.
Bet a normal amount on the flop. Would go with 20. Reasons to not bet super large: 1) it doesn't really fit well into a balanced strategy, 2) we probably don't want villain to fold as with equity + bluff equity our hand is actually worth more than that, 3) it reduces the chance villain will checkraise which would be super sweet.
Betting turn is absolutely mandatory. The ace is a great card to bluff. Getting checkraised isn't such a big deal and is unlikely in any case. Villain is 0% to have slowplayed vs that big bet on a wet board OTF, so to checkraise here he would have to have aces up. And if he has that, he might have played it by leading out given the wet board.
As played, whether to bluff and what sizing needs more info on SB. Theoretically you need to have some bluffs here and Q high seems like a good candidate. In practice it depends.
Bluffing the ace is going to be so effective here that I wouldn't bet with AK. I don't mind checking the wet board because I expect to collect on river bluffs a lot, and I think checking the ace gives me a better chance of getting money out of something like a jack on the river.
After checking turn it's bad to bluff river, especially since you have a really bad hand in terms of blockers. You want villain to have straight draws or spades which bricked and he will fold, which you heavily block.
Your game plays totally differently than mine if a $13 raise in MP somehow gets this HU in position, so nice play if this is expected. I'd actually open fold at my loose aggro table.
Did you just overbet $40 into a $29 pot? I would have bet like $15. He has to fold way more often to your bet than my smaller bet for us to be profitable, and it's likely the bet size on the flop won't have any say in whether he folds or not.
I'm assuming we have the flush draw too? I think this is a good barrel card on the turn and we can fold out some sticky pairs on the flop (although we obviously don't fold out A high flush draws or AJ). If we bet like half pot we give ourselves some FE plus about the immediate odds we need to chase if he calls, and if he raises our smallish bet he'll likely give us the odds to continue if he does a poor raise size. I don't hate a check back by any means.
My guess is we have little showdown value at this point. Most times if players make a decent value hand they'll lead the river themselves if we've checked behind the turn. I don't mind a bluff attempt here although I usually reserve all my bluff attempts to Villains who are known to have a fold Button and aware of my super nit image.
Bet smaller on flop, the turn was the magic card to bluff, he has AK. I think at this point bluffing the river is bad unless you have a read villian is both weak and hasn't seen the bluff the missed draw river bet 1,000 times already.
Generally speaking I would have fired another barrel on the turn. An A is a great card for you as you can easily be rapping the nut-flush draw. Would expect a 2nd barrel to take this one down nearly all of the time. If it doesn't you still have tons of equity heading to the river and, should you bink, you're in a better position to get paid big-time. Would bet $65-70 on turn. I would have bet turn also with any KK/QQ type hands. Basically I would have bet the A on the turn with ATC's.
Once you check the turn it's hard to rep a hand on the river that can beat J10. If you give up on the turn a river betting line doesn't make sense and is likely to get looked up light.
Once you check the turn it's hard to rep a hand on the river that can beat J10. If you give up on the turn a river betting line doesn't make sense and is likely to get looked up light.
If this is true, then checking KK/QQ OTT is a no brainer and you should be checking a lot of aces as well.
Welcome to the forum, OP. In the future, please don't give away results, as it biases advice. I edited them out. As QuadJ mentioned, we really need to know more about SB before we can comment.
Thank you for editing my post and everyone that commented.
The SB was a relatively good player that I thought was a tight (20ish my guess VPIP) aggressive.
It makes a lot of sense to me now that leading the turn is the most profitable play, and the line of betting on the river makes minimal sense despite the opponent showing weakness on the river.
