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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
I bet 30 on the flop. I agree with just calling turn raise. No reason to shove river (in my nitty opinion).
I urge you to re-consider your river opinion. We are heads up against the SB who is the only V who is not described as passive or nitty. Almost the opposite. We have the 4th nuts behind 3 combos of QQ, 3 combos of JJ, and 1 combo of 22 (7 total combos!). If we can't raise river for value here we need to either work on our reads (a lot!) or work on our MUBsy mindset. It bears repeating that QQ / JJ is going to 3 bet pre at least some of the time or raise flop vs our tiny sizing so I wouldn't even look at this as having all 7 combos in Vs range, maybe 4 is a more fair estimate.
The reason to raise river is to get value from the waaaaay more than 7 combos that will still call. There are 16 combos of KT alone thanks to our tiny pre, tiny flop, and tiny turn sizing. Add some combos of Q9, QJ, 22, and some flushes and we are good so incredibly more often that we are beat that it's a significant leak IMO not to raise this river against described V given described action.
If we're conservative and give V this range: All KTx16, QJ x 9, 10 flushes (AQ, AT, A4-A8, KQ, KT, T8) = 35 combos we beat vs 7 we lose too (again giving him all 7 unlikely combos). Note this completely ignores combos like Q9 that a cock SB could think are "priced in" for that sizing. That's literally 5 to 1. That's like me saying I'll write down a number from 1-6 on a piece of paper and if you roll that number on a six sided die I win, otherwise I'll give you $110. And you replying, "no I don't want to take that bet because I might roll that number".
Let's take out 5 flushes (AQ, AT, KQ, KT, T8 only) and a few unsuited KT and make it 28 combos. It's still 4 to 1. You should want to take this kind of edge if you have the opportunity. You wont win every time but that's not the point. The point is over the long run you will win so much more often. And the river is when the bet sizes are the largest so this can have huge impact on your win rate.
Last edited by c0rnBr34d; 07-23-2019 at 05:33 PM.
Reason: ETA: Combo comparison