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11-03-2014 , 09:05 PM

fizzypants

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,851

V1 (BB, $200): Huge fish

V2 (BTN, $160): Young winning player

Hero (CO, $300): Just sat down at table

2 limps, Hero raises to $17 with AsQd, V2 calls, V1 calls

Flop ($58): Jd 9d 3c
V1 checks, Hero bets $25, V2 calls, V1 folds

Turn ($108): 9s
Hero ???

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11-03-2014 , 09:36 PM

a12

adept

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 825

Check/fold.
Your c bet also looks weak/small.
Can just check this flop and probably get to turn for free.

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11-03-2014 , 10:57 PM

QuadJ

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 6,231

Flop c-bet is too small, either check behind or bet $35/$40. I would mix between checks and c-bets, not being deep and a drawish board speak against c-betting but having two over cards and only two villains are in favor. The exact ratio depends a lot on how sticky villains are.

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11-04-2014 , 01:14 PM

gobbledygeek

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,138

When stacks become deeper, we'll eventually want a seat change (we don't want a winning player on our left, plus having position on the fish is better).

After 2 limps I'm probably raising $20+ at my table to attempt to narrow the field.

In 3way pots I typically need a lot better board to cbet air (like Kxxr). This board sucks, imo. I check/fold.

As played, I would just give up. It's possible the guy is on a draw (which he also *might* check down), but it's also possible he has better (which I don't think he is folding with just a little more than a PSB left plus our super weak bet sizing on a drawy flop).

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11-04-2014 , 01:44 PM

johnnyBuz

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7,563

By c-betting this flop, you are saying you have TPTK or better, so why would you slow down on the turn? It wouldn't make sense to check the turn just because the 9 paired. You can force V2 to a stack decision by betting the turn for $50-60 or so. It's a leveraged bet, because in his mind, your entire stack is going in on the river, when in reality it is a pure bluff that leaves you uncommitted. This should be enough to scare off weaker flush draws and weaker pairs that didn't believe you on the flop - and still leaves you outs to shove the river if need be.

If you are not going to fire (at least) 2 barrels then this is a poor board to c-bet.

Last edited by johnnyBuz; 11-04-2014 at 01:50 PM.

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11-04-2014 , 11:55 PM

fizzypants

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,851

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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz

I agree with you, I butchered this hand, I have a huge leak to cbet flops all the time then give up on turn. Infact, I don't have a double barrel range most of the time.

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