Hi all,

1/3 at the Venetian. Soft table.

H: 345 to start. I have direct position on a very bad but aggressive player.

V:He has about 500 to start.

He is very active and we are starting to build a dynamic since I’ve been 3 betting him IP a lot

This hand I’m in the SB and he is on the button.

OTTH: he opens to 12 which is large. I 3 bet to 46 with Ad Kd

He calls

(93) Flop 5d 4c Js

I check (should we bet our entire range here?) he’s sticky and I’m OOP.

He checks back

Turn 6d we bet 45

He calls

( 183)River Qc

We check he bets 50

Can we hero here? It’s horrible we have two diamonds tho

Our line looks like AK. The 6 OTT doesn't change much. Either we were slow playing the flop, in which case we go for 2 streets on turn and river, or we stabbed turn with A high or an under pair hoping to get folds. When we check river we cant turn around and call to try to bluff catch with A high. There are several lines that are probably +EV here, x/b/x/c probably isn't one of them.

Since we checked flop against a LAG OOP i'd rather x/c the turn and not bloat the pot while repping thin unless we plan to barrel river. I can also get behind b/b/x on this run out. V has so many Qs, Js, and sticky pocket pairs in his 3! calling range against your line AP. I think it's spew to bluff catch AP.

Don't really need to know anything here other than that this bet is very obviously designed to be called, therefore don't call it.

He had 7 9

Shrug. Standing by the fold unless you'd seen him bluff this sizing before. Mental note and move on.

The Venetian is 1-2 with $300 (150bb) max buy in. Not 1-3.

Why check as the preflop aggressor in a heads up situation?
When you check OOP you tell him you got ****. So, he checks back and gets a free card as the weak preflop caller that he is. Yous guys play scare when you come to Vegas. Ha ha ha ha! .. First time in Vegas?

Oh **** off. Someone ban this guy.

While this is correct and therefore it is likely that the OP is leaving out (forgot) a lot of information, it is still worth looking at as a hand.

When a "bad" aggressive player is checking and betting small, it is time to fold when you have air. My guess is he has a set.

I don't play in games where "opens on the Button" is a thing, so not my dynamic, but...

I think we have 2 options preflop. We can just flat, hit an A/K/draw on the flop, and then let aggro guy hang himself. Yeah, we'll be giving up on some whiffed flops, but it's for a very small amount and OOP, so whatever, our next bunch of hands will have us in position. Or we can 3bet to an amount where we can easily stack off with TP hands (I would have made it $55). The drawback to this is that there's not exactly a boatload of money in the pot right now to go after, and we'll often find ourselves in no mans land on the turn with A high OOP against a difficult player and a decent chunk of chips already in. Choose your poison, imo.

As played I probably cbet like 1/3 PSB and just hope it takes it down. Not totally in love with our 3bet preflop if we're just going to check/fold when we whiff OOP as he's going to steal too many pots, imo.

As played on the turn we are telling no story at all and should expect little FE. The main benefit in betting is perhaps setting our own price for our overs + draw, in which case I'd bet smaller (1/3 PSB).

I give up on the river even though I don't feel great about it against this guy. You'd think if he was going to bluff he'd mostly do that on the flop, so I think there's too good a chance he actually has something.

ETA: Knowing results, my takeaway would be don't build big pots OOP to opponents that are far better at stealing them postflop than you are. You'd be better off 3betting to like 1/3rd of your stack preflop and then shoving the flop to prevent this, imo.

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i don't mind checking a lot of flops but this flop is pretty dry we have back door diamonds i think i would c-bet.

i think flop is a std cbet, ap turn and river are ok

Yeah, I think this is a good board to c-bet. Many cards give you either a gutter, top pair or a diamond draw. It shouldn't really hit him very often.

On the turn. You've both kind of said "either I missed or I'm weirdly trapping with a set in a 3b pot." He also could have something like TT. There are several hands he might fold. You are beating most, but most do have 6 outs or more. A big raise would suck. I'm probably check calling both turn and river now.

OTR. You can say you hit a queen now. But is he really folding anything that beats you? Maybe 77 or 88? Do hands like that, or a jack now value bet? I think a call is OK, but the way the hand it was played seems to have maximized level of difficulty.