Hi all,

V: has like 180-200 prior to the hand. Very loose/calls a lot. He has been caught bluffing before. MAWG.

H: cover V. First hand played against him

OTTH: We raises to $12 pre with AQ V calls in the cutoff. Everyone else folds.

($28) Flop Qs 9s 2c we bet $15 and he calls

($58) Turn 8c we bet $30 he calls.

($118) River J we kinda put a blocker bet out... $35 he shoves for $115 total.

Thoughts?

Definitely checking river. And likely folding. His missed FDs will have SDV often and you don’t beat any value hands.

Bet larger on the flop and turn. As played, the river is the worst card we could see. Check fold.

Check/fold river. Your river bet and sizing accomplishes nothing except induces a raise.

Flop and turn are way too small on this wet board.

c/f river.

Echoing what others have said. Bet more on flop and turn. River is a gross card, we now lose to QJ and QT and only really beat QK now. Most of his missed flush draws will check behind so check/fold seems in order, which sucks to do vs a loose player we’ve seen bluff but it seems warranted to play against him near perfectly here.

If you bet pot+ on the flop you can just overbet stuff the turn. Chosen sizing was very poor.

OK so this is something I sometimes mess up in game but when we hit TPTK against a bad player 60bb deep we should be planning to get it in, so size accordingly.

AP fold because we beat nothing.

I dont like the blocker bet either but now you are risking 80 to win 252. Missed spades, 97cc, KJcc, A9cc, 96cc. Heck maybe even A8, K8, 87,86, etc

1. In reverse, it looks like V started with $172 which is a little less than your estimation, but it'll factor in.

2. If you bet, $25 OTF, pot is $78 into turn and V has $135 left.

3. Depending on yor assessment of his range, I think you're still beating a fair amount of his holding. If you shove him, you're offering him $213 for $135, which at 1.5:1 forces him to fold a majority of his holdings, but get you a small pot.

4. If you bet $75 (>50% of his remaining stack) you pretty much price him out of just about every draw and then you call much more easily before the river comes off, regardless of the result.

This is a super wet board. Why are you betting so small? Bet large on wet boards and small on dry. Believe me, it works.

Why? Why are you betting here? Value? Deny equity? To see where you are at? It makes no sense to me. Please explain.

Again, Why? 2005 called and they want their blocker bet back. Ask yourself this. Is this a bet for value? Is this a bet that will make better hands fold? If the answer to these two questions are no, then you should not be making the bet.

Preflop is really dependent on our stack size. If we're sitting on like $200, I would probably more like to raise to $20 to stack off postflop with TP. Much deeper is really game dependent and I think arguments for all 3 acts (including folding) could be made.

SPR is about 7 on the flop so we can get stacks in pretty easy with 3 bets. Against most opponents, we shouldn't be thrilled with this idea. However, this guy seems pretty loose and the board is drawy. We could just bet/bet/bet. Or, if this guy sometimes bluffs or takes the reigns when checked to, we could perhaps check/raise to setup a turn shove, which I might prefer on this drawy board. If we're betting and feeling on the committed end of things, I would have bet closer to a PSB.

Not best turn card as the OESD and some two pairs got there. As played, I'm probably bet/folding smallish as we did.

I just check/evaluate the river. There's a chance we were already behind or behind now, although the main draw busted and this is a good card for Villain to bluff on so we can consider check/calling. Difficult spot either way.

ETA: Note that if our stack is $200 how easier postflop is had we simply made it $20 preflop. This would have created an SPR of 4, where we could have just committed postflop with 2 PSBs and the hand would have been over by the turn. Try to put yourself in a easy-to-play situation if you can, imo.

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